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How Difficult To Install Channel 9?

Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:58 am

How difficult/expensive is it to install Channel 9 on an airplane? What is the process? Does it involve massive re-wiring or is there a simple way to connect the feed into the in-seat audio system?
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RE: How Difficult To Install Channel 9?

Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:42 am

Or a bigger question, why does the UA pilot constantly have it turned off. The last time I flew UA, in late Jan the F/A said the company had disabled channel 9 due to teh christmas day incident. Why?? Is this true? Come on DL, install something similar to channel 9 on your fleet.
 
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RE: How Difficult To Install Channel 9?

Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:34 pm

Quoting aviationbuff08 (Reply 1):
Or a bigger question, why does the UA pilot constantly have it turned off.

It is at their discretion. After reading some stories of passengers confronting pilots after (mis)hearing certain things, I could certainly understand. It is unfortunate for us though.

Quoting aviationbuff08 (Reply 1):
Come on DL, install something similar to channel 9 on your fleet.

Well that is what I am wondering. If airlines like Delta or Continental already have PTVs, etc, how difficult could it be to add a Channel 9-like feature?
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RE: How Difficult To Install Channel 9?

Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:14 pm

Quoting aviationbuff08 (Reply 1):
Or a bigger question, why does the UA pilot constantly have it turned off. The last time I flew UA, in late Jan the F/A said the company had disabled channel 9 due to teh christmas day incident. Why?? Is this true? Come on DL, install something similar to channel 9 on your fleet.

I already get plenty of armchair QBs without Ch. 9. I can't blame them one bit for turning it off. If I had it on my aircraft, it wouldn't be on when I'm up there.

Adding a feature like this isn't difficult, you tap the radio and run it into the IFE (If you have it). However due to the lengthy and stringent rules the FAA has in place regarding such modifications the costs quickly get very high.
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RE: How Difficult To Install Channel 9?

Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:39 pm

Quoting rjpieces (Reply 2):
It is at their discretion. After reading some stories of passengers confronting pilots after (mis)hearing certain things, I could certainly understand. It is unfortunate for us though.

There was an instance on AS a while back when a plane flew into Juneau through a pretty bumpy ride. When the pilots were saying goodbye to the passengers, they would intermittently talk about the flight in and how they "got hammered on that one." An older lady took it as if they got drunk, and the whole thing blew out of proportion to the point where they had to hold the pilots for urinalysis and breathalyzers.
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RE: How Difficult To Install Channel 9?

Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:29 pm

It is available from the factory on 767, I know for a fact. I heard it on a US Airways flight last month.
 
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RE: How Difficult To Install Channel 9?

Sat May 01, 2010 2:28 pm

Quoting aviationbuff08 (Reply 1):
Or a bigger question, why does the UA pilot constantly have it turned off.

My past 2 mainline UA flights Channel 9 was on, one on IAD-FRA and on ORD-BUF (767 and 737 respectively).

Quoting aviationbuff08 (Reply 1):
Come on DL, install something similar to channel 9 on your fleet.

Come on Air Canada!!!!!! I would like it on all carriers, but I don't think it is going to happen.

Quoting pilotpip (Reply 3):
I can't blame them one bit for turning it off.

I can't either. On one of those UA flights, the women beside me heard on Channel 9 (I was listening as well):
(note, this is in paraphrase, but you'll get the idea)

ATC: United 246, right turn to 200 and descend to 4000' at discretion.
UA: Right to 200 and down to 4000' at discretion United 246.

The woman's reaction was: Why should we trust their discretion. What happens if some other pilots use their discretion, we're screwed. I held myself back, as I was on the last leg of a VCE-VIE-ORD-BUF itinerary, and I was tired.

Then as we disembarked at BUF, she asked the F/O why they aren't told exactly what to do and to use their discretion. I was behind her and just rolled my eyes, he smiled at me and proceeded to attempt an explanation.

Also, no blame for turning off CH. 9 when paxs do this:

Quoting flybaurLAX (Reply 4):
flight in and how they "got hammered on that one." An older lady took it as if they got drunk, and the whole thing blew out of proportion to the point where they had to hold the pilots for urinalysis and breathalyzers.

Ahh the flying public. Luckily when I walk out of a test and say "o man, i got hammered on that one", the teacher doesn't order a breathalyser.  

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