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Convair 580 Conversion From 340/440

Thu May 27, 2010 11:19 pm

Convair 340/440s that were converted into 580s with Allison 501 turboprops are still officially designated in their type certificates as 340s or 440s, and the 580 conversion is covered by a Supplemental Type Certificate. The "580" is only an unofficial marketing designation. The same applies for the R-R Dart conversion of 240s (into 600s) and 340/440s (into 640s).

The STC covering the 580 conversion contains the following note.

Note II. Airplanes modified in accordance with this Supplemental Type Certificate are frequently referred to unofficially as "580's" or "580A's"; however, for official record purposes, these airplanes retain their original Model 340 or 440 identity.

However, DC-8-61/62/63s that were modified with CFM56 engines officially became DC-8-71/72/73s and are so identified in the main DC-8 Type Certificate Data Sheet along with all the earlier DC-8 models.

I'm just curious what would acount for the different handling of the Convair and DC-8 conversions.
 
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RE: Convair 580 Conversion From 340/440

Fri May 28, 2010 3:13 am

The 580 conversions were completed by Pacific Airmotive in KBUR, and the FAA (at the time) wanted the original type designation to remain.
This was at the specific request of Consolidated Vultee (Convair) the original manufacturer, who still retained the type certificate.
 
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RE: Convair 580 Conversion From 340/440

Fri May 28, 2010 1:43 pm

The reason why is the 580/600/640 STC's were performed and developed by third party companies probably without much assistance from Convair. The only way to officially change the type designation is to amend the TC and I am sure Convair was not willing to do that at the time since they still owned the TC, so those become unofficial marketing names only.

As for the DC-8-71/-72/-73 conversions, Cammacorp who developed the conversion, worked directly with McDD and it was decided to amend the DC-8 TC. I imagine it was to be able to market and support it better and maximize its market potential since McDD largely promoted it as I recall.
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