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Why Is The 747 Considered To Be "Inflexible"?

Mon May 31, 2010 3:03 am

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I've noticed over time that many members here (and possibly even airlines) deem the 747 to be "inflexible" when it comes to certain options.

Let's take IFE for example. If you take a look at an LH 747-400, its economy class offerings are far less than the rest of LH's fleet of say, A340s, A330s, etc.

Does this have anything to do with something as simple as a Boeing/Airbus thing or is it more complex along the lines of more dated engineering as it is an older bird?
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RE: Why Is The 747 Considered To Be "Inflexible"?

Mon May 31, 2010 3:48 am

Quoting b6a322 (Thread starter):
I've noticed over time that many members here (and possibly even airlines) deem the 747 to be "inflexible" when it comes to certain options

I would guess that the most likely explanation is that the 747-400 is probably the oldest member of most widebody fleets, and in some cases may be nearing retirement. I know that DL is updating their 747s to BusinessElite, but I don't know if AVOD is coming as well.

I would wager, however, that the offerings aboard the 747-8I will be comparable with newer planes.
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RE: Why Is The 747 Considered To Be "Inflexible"?

Mon May 31, 2010 9:33 pm

Well,

SQ certainly had very nice IFE installed, in every seat, in economy on a 744 when I flew it to SIN and back in 2008...   The same can't be said for comfy seats in economy, though    I wish someone, somewhere would invent an economy seat that you could get a decent amount of rest in (like, as in, reclining enough for people like me who can't sleep in a relatively upright position...).
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RE: Why Is The 747 Considered To Be "Inflexible"?

Mon May 31, 2010 10:52 pm

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 2):
I wish someone, somewhere would invent an economy seat that you could get a decent amount of rest in (like, as in, reclining enough for people like me who can't sleep in a relatively upright position...).

It's called a business class seat.  
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RE: Why Is The 747 Considered To Be "Inflexible"?

Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:50 pm

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 3):
It's called a business class seat.

Yeah, but those cost a fair amount more coin than steearge class          When you're travelling for pleasure, and can barely afford economy seats for your family, I'm afraid you're SOL...  
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RE: Why Is The 747 Considered To Be "Inflexible"?

Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:38 pm

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 2):
wish someone, somewhere would invent an economy seat that you could get a decent amount of rest in (like, as in, reclining enough for people like me who can't sleep in a relatively upright position...).

Check out Air New Zealand's sky sleeper couch offering.
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RE: Why Is The 747 Considered To Be "Inflexible"?

Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:07 pm

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 1):
I don't know if AVOD is coming as well.

IIRC the ship is getting a nose-tail refurb including AVOD in both classes.

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RE: Why Is The 747 Considered To Be "Inflexible"?

Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:20 am

It's inflexible because if you try to bend it, it'll break. Now an aircraft that can be bent like a stress doll, that would be impressive.
 
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RE: Why Is The 747 Considered To Be "Inflexible"?

Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:54 pm

Good one, Glom.  

I can remember very clearly being an 8th grader in Seattle when the 744 first flew. Time flies.
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RE: Why Is The 747 Considered To Be "Inflexible"?

Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:57 am

Quoting nycbjr (Reply 6):
IIRC the ship is getting a nose-tail refurb including AVOD in both classes.

That's what I thought. The gist of it is that the inferior IFE on some 744s is not a limitation of technology, just the economic case.
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RE: Why Is The 747 Considered To Be "Inflexible"?

Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:25 pm

It could also be just because of how big it is. If you have say a 777 you can get the same distance with similar cargo load on less fuel.
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