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Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries

Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:49 pm

I recently found a document on the CAA website that shows the average salaries for Cabin Crew at UK airlines. The document can be found at:

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airline...nnel_Cost_UK_and_Overseas_2009.pdf

I was just wondering how these salaries compare to other cabin crew salaries around the world?

I thought this might be an interesting topic to start considering all the problems BA is currently having with it's cabin crew at Heathrow.

People might be surprised to see that Easyjet is the second highest in the UK, I certainly was!
 
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RE: Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries

Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:48 am

Hmmm...the statistic that was cited was "average expenditure per head" which, to me, is not the same as 'salary'.

"Average expenditure per head" may or may not equate closely to one's salary, and may have much more to do with the carrier's overall cost structure. From an airline's perspective, the total expenditure per head would include expenses beyond salary such as pension benefits, overnight accomodations, etc. For example, here in the US, it includes health care costs, which are a HUGE expense, and would grossly warp the "average expenditure per head" figure for US carriers relative to carriers from countries with national health care in place. So of course, since the UK, for example, has the NHS in place, that (significant) cost is not borne by UK carriers.

NOTE -- I'm not making a political statement, pro- or con-, about publicly-funded healthcare in the US, just pointing out a fact. My point is that the number on a company's bottom-line for expenses per employee may have little to do with the salary those employees actually receive. If I received the figure that my employer cites as it's "average expenditure per head", I would be very, very well-paid.
 
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RE: Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries

Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:00 pm

For QX:

Year 4: 25.00/hr 1.75 per diem. last year worked out to about 33K flying 3-5 days a week on average.

We do get a dollar for dollar match up to 10% on the 401K, and company paid medical which is nice.
 
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RE: Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries

Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:52 pm

Quoting flyboy80 (Reply 2):
Year 4: 25.00/hr 1.75 per diem.

When does the per diem begin and end for you work day(s)?
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RE: Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries

Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:04 am

WN Payscale:


Wage Rate June 1, 2007 June 1, 2008 June 1, 2009 June 1, 2010
1st 6 Months $20.06 $20.66 $21.28 $21.92
2nd 6 Months $20.31 $20.92 $21.55 $22.20
Step 1 $22.26 $22.93 $23.62 $24.33
Step 2 $23.87 $24.59 $25.33 $26.09
Step 3 $25.83 $26.60 $27.40 $28.22
**SKIP TO**
Step 13 $50.50 $52.02 $53.58 $55.19

Our per diem is $2.15/hr for every hour away from home (check-in to return)
Additional $2.00 premium for flying (A) "Senior" position.
Premium pay of $5/hr above pay-rate anything over 102hrs picked up from company.
Time and HALF for flying un-crewed trips on certain days off.
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RE: Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries

Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:26 am

I made $17 a flight hour working at RegionsAir (Corporate Airlines) flying on a Saab 340. Equates to roughly 20-22,000 a year. I miss the job, but not the pay.

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RE: Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries

Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:38 am

Quoting WNCrew (Reply 4):
Our per diem is $2.15/hr for every hour away from home (check-in to return)

Is the per diem paid while actually flying too?
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RE: Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries

Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:48 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 6):
Is the per diem paid while actually flying too?



Yes
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RE: Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries

Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:41 am

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 6):
Is the per diem paid while actually flying too?

Depends on the Airline. Per Diem is not taxable (though frankly that foolishness needs to end, but that's another story), so it will never be attatched to a pay stub. Typically, it will be disbursed as a check before the trip actually occurs, and for the amount expected based on trip days, and whether it is domestic, international, or any other condition. I think hardly anyone pays after the fact (though who knows what charter companies do.. perhaps someone else can shed light there...)
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RE: Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries

Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:53 am

Quoting wn700driver (Reply 8):
so it will never be attatched to a pay stub. Typically, it will be disbursed as a check before the trip actually occurs, and for the amount expected based on trip days, and whether it is domestic, international, or any other condition. I think hardly anyone pays after the fact (though who knows what charter companies do.. perhaps someone else can shed light there...)

????
Um not so. I've worked for 5 US carriers (one charter, 4 reg pax commercial carriers) and not one of them did what you describe here. All of them paid the perdiem with my regular paycheck AFTER the fact same as my flight hour pay. I know for a fact that most if not all the major carriers do likewise.
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RE: Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries

Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:25 am

Quoting wn700driver (Reply 8):
Depends on the Airline. Per Diem is not taxable (though frankly that foolishness needs to end, but that's another story), so it will never be attatched to a pay stub. Typically, it will be disbursed as a check before the trip actually occurs, and for the amount expected based on trip days, and whether it is domestic, international, or any other condition. I think hardly anyone pays after the fact (though who knows what charter companies do.. perhaps someone else can shed light there...)

..if you fly for WN, do pilots not get paid the same as FA's? Our per diem comes in addition to our regular salary on our paycheck on the 20th of the month so it is attached to a pay-stub. Granted on our W2 is has it's own category, but we're certainly not paid our per diem beforehand or separately.
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RE: Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries

Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:43 pm

Quoting WNCrew (Reply 10):
the 20th of the month

Do you only get paid once a month or is that the period for the per diem disbursement? This maybe a silly question but do you get per diem while sleeping in the hotel? I only get $250-350 per day (depending on city) while traveling.
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RE: Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries

Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:50 am

At RegionsAir our per-diem came in our paycheck under the pre-tax items. (non-taxable income)

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RE: Cabin Crew - Comparing Salaries

Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:05 am

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 11):
This maybe a silly question but do you get per diem while sleeping in the hotel? I only get $250-350 per day (depending on city) while traveling.

Yes but if you do the math you have a much better deal unless you have to pay your hotels and transportation out of that money.

My airline pays $2.40 every hour I am away from home until I complete the trip and go off duty. Most American carriers do it the same way although $2.40/hr is at the higher end of the norm for per diem pay. I only know of one carrier who does it differently.
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