lax777lr
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Crew Positioning - Launching Long-haul Routes

Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:54 pm

In launching a new, daily LH or ULH route, how does an airline pre-position the return flight crew? Take the recent launch of DOH-GRU by QR. Does the GRU-EZE crew deadhead in on the inaugural flight, or do they fly in on other carriers in advance? Thanks in advance for your insight.
 
flyfree727
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RE: Crew Positioning - Launching Long-haul Routes

Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:03 pm

AA positions them their on other carries when necessary. The ORD PEK service, the crew deadheaded to NRT then flew JL to PEK for the return flight PEK ORD.

IIRC, the DEL ORD first flight was 2 days after the first ORD DEL flight, so the crew was positioned already. Not 100% sure though its been a while.

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RE: Crew Positioning - Launching Long-haul Routes

Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:59 pm

Quoting flyfree727 (Reply 1):
IIRC, the DEL ORD first flight was 2 days after the first ORD DEL flight, so the crew was positioned already. Not 100% sure though its been a while.

Interesting. So the airplane sat in DEL for 2 days?
 
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RE: Crew Positioning - Launching Long-haul Routes

Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:07 pm

Quoting lax777lr (Thread starter):
do they fly in on other carriers in advance? Thanks in advance for your insight.

When AF re-opened CDG-AUH last May third, the Crew on duty for the first return AUH-CDG was positioned the day before. They flew CDG-DXB on AF and were then transfered to Abu Dhabi by bus.

Big Major airlines usually use their own existing network to take their crew to the closest destination, and then are using partner services.
 
RP TPA
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RE: Crew Positioning - Launching Long-haul Routes

Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:05 pm

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 3):
Big Major airlines usually use their own existing network to take their crew to the closest destination, and then are using partner services

As another example, Air Canada started YYZ-CPH last week. The return crew likely flew the night prior to the inaugural flight to one of the *A hubs (FRA/MUC/LHR/ZRH), and then on LH/SK/LX to CPH.
 
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RE: Crew Positioning - Launching Long-haul Routes

Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:11 pm

Quoting rp tpa (Reply 4):

As another example, Air Canada started YYZ-CPH last week. The return crew likely flew the night prior to the inaugural flight to one of the *A hubs (FRA/MUC/LHR/ZRH), and then on LH/SK/LX to CPH.

Actually when it comes to interline and business travel, it rarely matters if the airline is in an alliance or not. Usually company business travel tickets are ID50 on other airlines from what I know. The contracts between the airlines for interline travel are a lot different from what the public sees as far as alliances go. Would you expect that United's closest interline partner is jetBlue? It might not make sense to the regular passenger, but there are contracts negotiated that often have nothing to do with alliances. Certain airlines might be in an alliance, but will offer little to no interline benefits to fellow alliance airlines.
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