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Question For SWA Ramp Agents

Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:25 pm

This is going seem like a left field question, way left but how does the fueler give the amount of fuel he put onboard to the pilot. Is it thru you guys, does he give it to the pilot himself or and this is what I really want to know. Is there some sort of line from the cockpit that hangs out with a board to write the fuel load on. To which the pilot then can yank up the line and into the cockpit to read.


I'm asking this because the airline i work for is trying to make it more efficienct i guess you can say for the pilots to get the fuel load and I was talking to one of the fuelers that was working my flight and he mentioned that SWA has a system in which a line is hung from the cockpit and the fueler would write on the board what he put into the plane. Anyway, any info on this would be great. Thanks in advance.
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RE: Question For SWA Ramp Agents

Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:05 pm

There's a piece of paper called a "fuel slip". The fueler fills out the amount of fuel in each tank prior to fueling (in pounds), the ending amount (in pounds), gets the reading of fuel dispensed from the fueling truck/machine (in gallons), uses a standard conversion for that particular airport, gets the fuel weight, and compares that to what the airplane says it took. If the numbers are within tolerance, he/she signs the fuel slip, and gives a copy to the captain.
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RE: Question For SWA Ramp Agents

Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:55 pm

I know the technical aspects to fueling. I'm a lead on the ramp. The problem that we are having is getting the fuel numbers to the pilots. Our operations don't want the fuelers going up and giving it to the pilots. The other problems we are having is that the fueler will give the uplift to someone on the crew and that person will forget to give it to the lead. Because of this, this fueler is now telling us the uplift and we're having to write it down ourselves and if the fueler leaves without relaying the uplift to us, we have to call on the radio for it. Your dealing with incompetence pretty much with my company. Yeah its just that sad but that's a whole other story. Anyway, I was talking to a fueler that mentioned SWA and that they had some method of hanging something out the cockpit for the fueler to put the slip into and the pilot would hoist it up.

The whole point of my thread is to maybe somehow use this method that the fueler told me about but first I want to see if 1) its actually used by SWA and 2) the material that is used.

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[Edited 2010-07-16 16:58:27]
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RE: Question For SWA Ramp Agents

Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:20 am

Ops agent fills out a fuel slip in the jetbridge and hangs it on a line. This will be the fuel requested by the dispatcher.

The fueler puts this fuel on the plane. Then he returns the fuel slip to the line. Ops agent pulls it up and does the load manifest with this fuel. Then gives the load manifest to the pilot. Pilot confirms fuel onboard on the cockpit guages with what has been loaded down below.

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RE: Question For SWA Ramp Agents

Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:27 am

so it not out the cockpit but out the jetbridge. is it put in some kind of zip lock potch of some sort?
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RE: Question For SWA Ramp Agents

Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:25 am

Quoting contrails15 (Reply 2):
I know the technical aspects to fueling. I'm a lead on the ramp.

So it seems you are. Apologies.

Quoting contrails15 (Reply 2):
Our operations don't want the fuelers going up and giving it to the pilots.

Why is that?

Quoting seven3seven (Reply 3):

A little roundabout, but thanks for the info  
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RE: Question For SWA Ramp Agents

Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:03 pm

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 5):
So it seems you are. Apologies.

No worries, I should of stated that.

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 5):
Quoting contrails15 (Reply 2):
Our operations don't want the fuelers going up and giving it to the pilots.

Why is that?

I have no idea. It really would make life much easier for us.
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