YYZRWY23
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Flight Crew Levels On Different Flights

Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:23 pm

Hey a.net,

I was looking through my photos from a trip to England in March and remembered that there were only two pilots on the LGW-YYZ segment. I thought for a trans-Atlantic flight there would be a third flight crew member.

Could anyone enlighten me to the regulations that dictate flight crew levels? Also, could you post individual airline levels for different flights (transatlantic, transpacific.....etc)?

Thanks for the help.

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FlyHossD
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RE: Flight Crew Levels On Different Flights

Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:30 pm

Per the U.S. F.A.R.s (Federal Aviation Regulations), a third pilot isn't required unless the scheduled time
is greater than 8 hours.

IIRC, if an international flight is scheduled for greater than 12 hours, then a fourth pilot is required.

So, 8 hours or less = 2 pilots. 8.1 to 12 hours = 3 pilots. 12.1 to 16 = 4 pilots.

But don't quote me, I don't fly any of the long haul trips.
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RE: Flight Crew Levels On Different Flights

Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:46 pm

Varies greatly between countries.

Canadian regulations can be viewed at;
http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/re...fairs/cars/part7/standards/720.htm

See section 720.15-21 for flight time, duty and rest rules.
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RE: Flight Crew Levels On Different Flights

Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:55 pm

Quoting YYZRWY23 (Thread starter):
I thought for a trans-Atlantic flight there would be a third flight crew member.

As noted by others, it is time that counts, not routing.
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RE: Flight Crew Levels On Different Flights

Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:34 pm

I have done many, many Atlantic crossings from the US East coast to Europe (and vice-versa) with only 2 pilots under US FAR 121. FlyHossD gave a very good general explanation of the rules under US FAR 121. The bulk of these routes will be between the US Northeast and the UK in practicality.

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