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Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:27 pm

Good day,

Does anybody have photos of data plates of engines and/or planes?

Regards,
Marcel
 
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:52 pm

Quoting warbirdplates (Thread starter):

Does anybody have photos of data plates of engines and/or planes?

Ask and Google provides.

Aircraft data plates: http://www.google.com/images?q=aircr...mode&ved=0CBMQ_AU&biw=1280&bih=640

Engine data plates: http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&c...+plate&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Tom.
 
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:18 pm

Good one Tom ... anyway, that's what I made first  
Thanks but I was looking for rare plates out-of-the-usual ones.
For example actual Boeing/Airbus/McDonnell Douglas civilian planes which are very RARE to find any photo on the net.

Marcel
 
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:07 pm

Quoting warbirdplates (Reply 2):
Thanks but I was looking for rare plates out-of-the-usual ones.

Oddly, most of the stuff you can find photos of are rare aircraft...which is why there are photos of the data plates in the first place.

Quoting warbirdplates (Reply 2):
For example actual Boeing/Airbus/McDonnell Douglas civilian planes which are very RARE to find any photo on the net.

So you're looking for rare *photos*, not photos of data plates of rare *aircraft*, right? If so, what specifically are you looking for and I can refine my search.

Tom.
 
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:23 pm

Hi Tom,

For example ... actual civilian planes, I just could find a photo with a data plate of a B-757 and a C-17, nothing else, strange but true. I'm doing a webpage to place all this photos of data plates and it's courious to find more photographed data plates of planes and engines from WWII than the actual ones.

I'm only interested on the data plates.

Have a nice day,
Marcel
 
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:29 pm

Well C-17 is military ... but what I mean is that it's more complicated to find a data plate from actual planes than from the ones who have lots of years.
Did you ever see an Airbus data plate? Not me yet.

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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:14 am

Don't know if this is what you are talking about...each component has a data plate, one shot is from Airbus A300 aft cargo door...the other is from A300 nose gear door.
A300cargodoor
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:03 am

Wow!! Great!! That's what I was talking about!!
Thanks!!
 
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:04 am

Date of Made... let's hope the construction quality is better than the English.
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:26 pm

Quoting andz (Reply 8):
let's hope the construction quality is better than the English

("Type of Material", A300)?...that would be aluminum....("Aircraft Type")=A300.B
 
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:14 pm

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 6):
Don't know if this is what you are talking about...each component has a data plate, one shot is from Airbus A300 aft cargo door...the other is from A300 nose gear door.

Question from curious mind:

If each component has a data plate, how much extra weight on a plane do you venture to guess is added from all these data plates? I would probably say 50 lbs or so...metal does add up!

I am going to assume, hopefully correctly, that many are stamped onto pieces.

Just throwing it out there for fodder   
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:54 pm

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 10):
If each component has a data plate, how much extra weight on a plane do you venture to guess is added from all these data plates? I would probably say 50 lbs or so...metal does add up!

Each part does not have a data plate. The entire plane will have a couple of data plates. The FAR 23 requirements specify that only one is required per aircraft.
Boeing Flown: 701,702,703;717;720;721,722;731,732,733,734,735,737,738,739;741,742,743,744,747SP;752,753;762,763;772,773.
 
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:05 pm

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 11):
Each part does not have a data plate. The entire plane will have a couple of data plates. The FAR 23 requirements specify that only one is required per aircraft.

Sounds good to me, but I think we have conflicting data now that needs to be clarified:

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 6):
each component has a data plate
Quoting CitationJet (Reply 11):
ach part does not have a data plate.

Now, I could have possibly misinterpreted the word "component" for "part", which is my fault.
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:24 pm

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 10):
If each component has a data plate, how much extra weight on a plane do you venture to guess is added from all these data plates? I would probably say 50 lbs or so...metal does add up!

Each component has some kind of identifying area that gives the part number, serial number (if applicable), sometimes a name, and sometimes a manufacturer. This is not precisely a "data plate" in the sense the OP meant.

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 10):
I am going to assume, hopefully correctly, that many are stamped onto pieces.

Part marks (what you're talking about) are often stamped or printed and covered with clearcoat. Actual physical data plates (chunks of metal fastened to the object) do exist on certain parts, but by no means all.

Tom.
 
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:38 pm

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 13):
Part marks (what you're talking about) are often stamped or printed and covered with clearcoat. Actual physical data plates (chunks of metal fastened to the object) do exist on certain parts, but by no means all.

Thanks Tom...sounds like I confused two different things into one.
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:41 pm

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 10):


With exception of plates that exposed to slipstream, like gear doors the rest of the data "tags" appear to be nothing more than heavy gauge speed tape, screen printed and stamped. Cumulatively I would imagine the total weight to be negligible. All the vertical fin panels I have are tagged but the wing composite panels are not???. If tags are not used then simple stamping much like rubber stamps are used. Boeing and MDouglas big with that. Airbus stamps w/ ink part numbers but I guess as Airbus is an international consortium...they each label their products...???
 
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:29 pm

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 12):
but I think we have conflicting data now that needs to be clarified:

The requirements for ID plates for aircraft are found in FAR 45.11 Marking of Products. Part 121 operations must have the ID plate near an entrance, otherwise the aircraft ID plate must be on the fuselage exterior so that it is legible to a person on the ground, and must be adjacent to and aft of the rear-most entrance door, or on the fuselage surface near the tail surfaces.

The above is for the marking of product, the marking of parts is a different issue.

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...y/rgFAR.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet
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RE: Does Anybody Have Photos Of Data Plates?

Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:20 am

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 16):

Boeing and the others do affix a riveted, engraved or chemically etched data plate reflecting the serial number, model type and date of manufacture of the completed airframe and by whom. While many parts, gear doors, entry doors, nose bowl, fairings do have manufacturing plates on them. Interesting enough TWA had their own parts numbering system and TWA logo plate or tag that supplemented the others from Boeing, for example. I don't know how many other carriers do this if any...First shot=TWA 747 nose gear door part tag...second image...MD80 stamp method
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