bjorn14
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Failed Check Ride?

Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:23 pm

If a pilot has bid up to a new a/c type and continues to fail his check ride how long does an airline wait before passing him over to the next bidder?
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CosmicCruiser
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RE: Failed Check Ride?

Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:01 pm

Depends on the airline. We get 3 strikes and you're out. Usually if you bust 2 you get the option of going back to your old seat and be frozen for 2 yrs or taking one last chkride and play bet your job.
 
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RE: Failed Check Ride?

Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:47 pm

Two strikes you're out here. You loose your IFR in Canada too.
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josekmlb
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RE: Failed Check Ride?

Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:09 pm

Quoting YWG (Reply 2):

Ouch that has to suck...
 
propjock04
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RE: Failed Check Ride?

Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:37 pm

At my company if you fail a check ride in larger equipment, you get one recheck before your future employment is "evaluated." If you fail out of training in larger equipment, you must take a check ride in your current equipment to prove you can still do the job.
 
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RE: Failed Check Ride?

Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:48 pm

Quoting josekmlb (Reply 3):

Ouch that has to suck..

Considering theres only one chance at a sucessfull landing each time thereafter.Two chances is a Luxury.
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bjorn14
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RE: Failed Check Ride?

Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:23 am

So what does everyone think is a fair solution?
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slz396
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RE: Failed Check Ride?

Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:13 pm

As said before, most airlines have a policy that if you fail a retake, you have a problem and are in need of 'help', often meaning you are sent back to your previous type and will get additional training/coaching in a familiar seat on your weakspots. After a few years, you may then try again should you wish, but you can expect to be more closely watched this time and you better dont fail again then...  

It's very rare to see somebody fail a checkride at an airline however, let alone twice in a row...

Personally I've only see it happen once and that guy ultimately took the offer of early retirement as he was 2 years away from retirement anyway, having to transition from 737 to A320 not due to his own bidding, but due to a complete fleet renewal....
 
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RE: Failed Check Ride?

Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:19 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 5):
Considering theres only one chance at a sucessfull landing each time thereafter.Two chances is a Luxury.
regds
MEL.

Let me make 2 points. first, for the co.s that still use the "old" style chk ride. eg. prochk standards, your're doing nothing that you see on a normal daily flight. It's stuff that if you're lucky only see twice a year with no way to practice. Second, some co.s have now moved on to a "continuing qualification" format that is certainly more informative and practical. Most things are done real time with some items unbriefed. I think your actually learn more with this format and the failure rate is less. No co. should want to terminate any crewmember unless absolutely necessary considering we all met the hiring parameters at the interview and lots of money is invested in trg. Sometimes there's no other choice but it shouldn't be because of a single failed sim ride.
 
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RE: Failed Check Ride?

Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:17 pm

A bit off topic, but what about if you fail a checkride like for CFI-I. Do the airlines care about that even though it's not required?

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