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Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:58 am

Hey guys,

I need advice on what I'm going to do when I "grow up" I'm turning 16 this year and I'm going to college soon, so it's time to decide what I'm going to do. Obviously, I'm an aviation geek and I want to do something aviation-related when I grow up. First, like any other kid who's interested in aviation, I want to be a pilot. But then, there's years of training and it's gonna cost a lot.

Now, I want to be a flight attendant, hopefully and preferably on Emirates. My ultimate dream is to travel the world and I thought about, why become a flight attendant? You travel the world for free while getting paid! Yes, there's negative things on becoming an FA (A fellow a.netter who's an EK FA told me) But then, she said, the benefits outweighs the negatives. I know it's really not a vacation when you get to your destination, you get there and you stay for a few days or less then you go back to serving passengers. But then, the fact that you're there, a foreign city in a foreign land is worth wile, even if you're staying their for only a day! I would love to see the world at a young age. I'm not planning to be a flight attendant for the rest of my life, I want to try something fun.

I'm determined to be an EK FA, they seem to be an awesome airline to work at.

What other airlines have benefits similar to EK?

I read the EK Carrier Website and the requirements look fair enough. From your experience, what's going to be my advantage? What college course should I take? And etc.

- I currently live in New York City
- I speak fluent English, Filipino, Visayan (second language in the Philippines) and some Spanish.


Is there a specific color or race that EK hires most? I know they're pretty diverse, btw does fluency in Arabic helps you? I'm Filipino and my great grandfather's from Pakistan, I don't look Filipino at all, I'm sorta mixed Persian-look but lighter. I don't know why I'm mentioning this lol. And yes you can call me friendly and I'm very patient.  

Btw, I think EK has those name tags with you're name and country of origin's flag on it, I was born in the Philippines and I'm on my way to become a US Citizen and by the time i'm going to be 21, I'm going to have a blue passport, what flag would be on my name tag...lol 

I haven't reached my full height yet, but everyone in my family is pretty much tall.

Though I'm having second thoughts, I'm really good in Math, Science and basically in school, so should I use my talent in math/science-related jobs? I'm not saying FAs are not smart, but would it better if I go with the regular jobs? I want to have an interesting job, not an office job.

My inspiration to become an FA is my mom's cousin who's an EK FA. She has all these pictures on facebook wit her in Sydney, the Great Wall, London, Paris, Bangkok and etc. It looks like a pretty good job!

Comments and Suggestions are appreciated  

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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:10 pm

I'm a corporate pilot and can't give you advice about being a flight attendant but I do know this:

It's nice to hear a fresh and enthusiastic voice eager to follow a dream. I did, and with some hard work, a good attitude, and a lucky break or two, have loved the 22 year ride so far and would do it all over again. You seem to have the most important asset already, a goal you are excited about. That alone will take you far.

Best of luck to you.

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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:29 pm

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):

Though I'm having second thoughts, I'm really good in Math, Science and basically in school, so should I use my talent in math/science-related jobs?

If it helps you: I know of flight attendants who used to be bank clerks and biology graduates but choose to work for LH nonetheless because they love this job.

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
I want to have an interesting job, not an office job.

So do I. Since I graduate this year, I am currently considering becoming a flight attendant as well. If the industry picks up, I wouldn't rule out getting a pilot's license as well.

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
- I speak fluent English, Filipino, Visayan (second language in the Philippines) and some Spanish.

That sounds pretty good. Beside the generally-required German and English Ianguage skills required for becoming an FA at LH, I am also at an advanced level in French and Spanish. I love languages and believe they can turn out to be useful in this job.

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
What college course should I take?

I know of (former) pilots who have degrees in aviation managment, work as flight dispatchers or aerospace engineers. Once you're inside the industry it seems there are quite a few ways to promote yourself in various ways.

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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:47 pm

You have a unique skill set in the languages you speak. I might be inclined to use that to earn a living and fly for fun.

I can't speak for flight attendants at the airlines you mention, but in the US it's not a great job. Neither is flying for an airline, but friends I have flying overseas do seem to enjoy it more than those in the States and earn a better living to boot.

Best of luck in your endeavors!
 
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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:32 pm

The one advice I would give is not to limit your choice to one airline. There are plenty of world class airlines in Asia. Many will put a (slight) premium on your knowledge of Tagalog/Filipino and Visaya. Apply for several and see where that gets you.

I found it fun to travel but it is not for everyone. I used to travel a lot for work and I was ok with it but I know most people would have hated it after a while. Sure, it's fun for a while but the novelty does wear off. Not suggesting you don't do it, just warning you that things are not quite as glamorous as they may seem. Don't get the job just for the travel.

Crew schedules, and F/As typically have it worse that pilots, often mean that you'll just want to crash at the hotel. I know that many (female) CX F/As will sit fully dressed in a chair in their hotel room and sleep on short layovers, simply because they don't want to take the time to re-apply their make-up and dress in the morning. If you only have 5 hours in a hotel between two long-hauls, it suddenly doesn't seem like an unreasonable alternative.

All that being said, work hard and anything is possible. Follow your dreams.
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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:19 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 6):

Thank you for this elaborate statement.

The crew scheduling at CX seems tough. In the course of my research on the job, I learnt that LH gives their crews 48 hours of layover time on longer longhaul flights, along with a high allowance. I thought that was pretty generous. It is also a hint how employment and working conditions differ from airline to airline, though.
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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:13 am

Certainly airlines differ greatly in their scheduling. But things aren't static. You might start work and the airline has a nice schedule, but five years later it changes and becomes crap. Given seniority rules, it is difficult to just jump ship and go to a better employer.
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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:08 pm

Quoting jetblue777 (Reply 9):
Yes, I'm planning to apply for EK, SQ, CX, EY, KE, LH and those world-class airlines but on SQ's website, it only says they only hire FAs from Singapore, Malaysia, Japan and India? Is this truee??

Yes this is true. SQ only hires FAs which are Singaporean nationals/residents or FAs from Malaysia. They only started recruiting FA's from Japan and India a few years back if I remember correctly and those FA's usually only fly the Japan-SIN or Japan-US routes and the Indian FA's fly India-SIN.

It's all part of keeping the SQ girl/boy glamour and it would look weird for someone who is not Asian wearing the SQ uniform.

I am not sure if you would have a chance with LH, as you might not get a work permit. Unless they have a base in the US but then you probably only get to fly from there to Germany.

Your best chances are probably with EK, CX, EY. Although CX also goes for Asian looks. So if you do not look Asian, your chances are rather slim of becoming an FA with them. However they have FAs from all over Asia.

So yeah this leaves EK and EY as I do not know KE that well but I am not sure again if they hire non Asian FAs and I think you prob need to be fluent in Korean. However pls correct me if this is wrong.

I heard great things about EK if you want to be an FA and they do cover almost the whole world now. I think I personally would prefer EK. However another option you could consider is QR.
 
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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:32 pm

I am not, nor ever have been, an airline employee, although I seriously thought about it as a young person. But I have lived and gone to school in Germany and worked for one of the world's largest German companies in Berlin, Germany as a young person. (Starts with an "S" and ends with an "S".) There's an entirely different mentality working/living in a different country--it's not like going to work in Florida. And Europe is starting to get very xenophobic with new stringent work permit/resident requirements. I don't know about other parts of the world.

I guess you are U.S. born or a US green card holder, so apply to a US airline. I think your chances of getting your dream job are very high if you are proficient in several languages because so many of the US airlines traveling overseas don't have too many LOD (Language of Destination) speakers. They always have to hire at least one person from that overseas destination.

If you are proficient in either Chinese, Japanese, Arabic and one or two European languages especially French, Spanish or Italian (most Germans/Dutch/Scandinavians are somewhat English conversant) then you have your ticket to a lot of international travel, jumping ahead of a lot of mono-lingual F/A's. That's my guess of the situation. But I believe that the pay especially in the beginning is very low; you have to share an apartment to get by. And it's a lot of hard work. The glamour of working for Pan Am and TWA is long gone.

Why not instead get a job that does a lot of travel, such as international sales, public relations, translator or similar for a large, international company. You'd get better pay and still see the world. But first, FIRST. Get a 4 year college degree in a marketable trade or profession from a US college or university and if possible, go to school overseas for a semester or year in your 2nd or third year of school. And don't ever get complacent; it kills dreams. But always advance to the next step in your career.

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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:41 am

I just had to delete a bunch of posts in this thread because they decayed into an argument about various defamatory stereotypes pertaining to male flight attendants. This is not called for and will not be tolerated in this forum.

Let's all try to be nice and help answer the OP's questions about finding work as a flight attendant. Thanks!
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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:24 am

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
What college course should I take?

Since many airlines do not require FA's to have college degrees so I imagine just a four year degree will be good.

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
I'm determined to be an EK FA, they seem to be an awesome airline to work at.

I would investigate A LOT! Into EK. Everything seems great with all the perks and the life style of Dubai but it is a very different place then the US. Also very different work rules and regulations. There are lots of airlines out there.

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 4):
The one advice I would give is not to limit your choice to one airline.

Exactly! Shop around and send applications to lots of them. But for now just do what you need to do in school and worry about the job when you get closer to the age you want to apply at.
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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:37 am

I'm not a F/A but I've worked with a few in training.

Something to think about is to enroll in a first aid course (preferably maybe even an advanced first aid course...at the very least, learn CPR and how to use an AED), to see if you are the type of person who can remain calm in crisis situations and think on your feet. The large majority of flight attendant training is emergency procedures, so an employer knowing that you have a background (or at least interest) in responding to emergencies might be appealing to them.

Having a prior job or significant experience with customer relations (e.g. sales with direct customer contact) will certainly be helpful as well.

Good luck!
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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:53 am

Quoting MarkHKG (Reply 11):
Something to think about is to enroll in a first aid course (preferably maybe even an advanced first aid course...at the very least, learn CPR and how to use an AED), to see if you are the type of person who can remain calm in crisis situations and think on your feet. The large majority of flight attendant training is emergency procedures, so an employer knowing that you have a background (or at least interest) in responding to emergencies might be appealing to them.

Having a prior job or significant experience with customer relations (e.g. sales with direct customer contact) will certainly be helpful as well.

Good advice! I must say that CPR, Basic First Aid and AED training is very easy and simple. A 10 year old can use an AED. But it you get qualified before you apply and put it on your resume it will look good. What would be even better is an EMT course or certified first responder. Many colleges give EMT courses.

Also they will want to see customer service experience so go ahead and work part time at some place where you will deal with customers.
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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:34 am

Quoting flymia (Reply 12):
Also they will want to see customer service experience so go ahead and work part time at some place where you will deal with customers.

This is probably 50 percent of what they're looking for. Being a team player, well-mannered and well-versed, and working well under pressure are about 45 percent of it. The rest is filler, like this:

Quoting flymia (Reply 12):
But it you get qualified before you apply and put it on your resume it will look good.

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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:32 pm

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
Now, I want to be a flight attendant, hopefully and preferably on Emirates.

That's good to hear  
Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
I'm determined to be an EK FA, they seem to be an awesome airline to work at.

Well being determined is the first step and will take you a long way - the recruiters know if you really do want the job and are aware of the perks and the pitfalls versus someone who is misinformed and thinks it's going to be a perennial vacation. They learned the hard way from their hiring spree in 2007.

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
What other airlines have benefits similar to EK?

When I applied I only went for EK because they were the only airline I was willing to relocate for, but I do know that Qatar and Etihad have similar packages, though I believe EK pays the best. I would definitely check long and hard about heading out to QR though...I've heard some horror stories about working with the airline, and they do have some ludicrous policies (even among the three big ones in the Mid East). Doha is also a different beast to Dubai, and perhaps even Abu Dhabi.

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
- I currently live in New York City

Nice - that's where I was recruited from!   They had several recruitment drives back in 2008 in NYC.

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
- I speak fluent English, Filipino, Visayan (second language in the Philippines) and some Spanish.

Having other language skills always helps.

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
Is there a specific color or race that EK hires most? I know they're pretty diverse,

Not really, it's kind of like the United Nations within the EK cabin crew pool. I remember something absurd like over 135 countries represented or something like that.

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
btw does fluency in Arabic helps you?

Fluency in Arabic will help you A LOT. EK has a drastic lack of Arabic speakers and every flight requires an Arabic speaker - they actively have seperate recruitment drives for Arabic speakers ONLY in Dubai, and it will help a lot if you are/can be fluent in Arabic.

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
And yes you can call me friendly and I'm very patient.

Another trait that is vital.

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
I don't look Filipino at all, I'm sorta mixed Persian-look but lighter. I don't know why I'm mentioning this lol.

Hey, work those exotic looks!

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
My inspiration to become an FA is my mom's cousin who's an EK FA. She has all these pictures on facebook wit her in Sydney, the Great Wall, London, Paris, Bangkok and etc. It looks like a pretty good job!

We do get to travel a lot, and see the world. I've done over 1 million kms now with EK and visited all 6 inhabited continents and have been to places as far flung as Accra, Sydney, Sao Paolo, Tokyo and Houston.

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 4):
If you only have 5 hours in a hotel between two long-hauls, it suddenly doesn't seem like an unreasonable alternative.

That seems highly illegal - 5 hours of rest between two long hauls? No way.
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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:24 pm

My personal opinion based on my own experiences was that the best way to see the world is to go work for an airline in management. Not only do you get to manage an aspect of the operation of an airline, you also get flight benefits for you and family. The key difference is that you have a job with regular hours that lets you have a life and also that you earn a salary high enough to live a comfortable life.

With that said, going to Embry Riddle and getting an aviation management or aeronautical science bachelors degree might not be the best way. The vast majority of the people I know who work in airline management have professions like engineering, finance, IT, accounting, strategy, etc. I use to work in engineering at an airline and it was the best job of my life. Getting to work on the operating characteristics of the airline during the week and jetting across the Pacific in International First Class for a long weekend while staying at 4* hotels at crew rates.
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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:42 am

Quoting jetblue777 (Thread starter):
why become a flight attendant? You travel the world for free while getting paid!


You should not give this kind of answer during a job interview. The primary reason you should tell them is that you like to be responsible for the safety and well-being of other people. That you will travel a lot can come as added bonus.
This "I want to get this and this and this for free and get paid for it" doesn't go well with HR departements.
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RE: Advice On Being A Flight Attendant

Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:50 am

Quoting sq_ek_freak (Reply 14):

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 4):
If you only have 5 hours in a hotel between two long-hauls, it suddenly doesn't seem like an unreasonable alternative.

That seems highly illegal - 5 hours of rest between two long hauls? No way.

I didn't say 5 hours between flights. I said 5 hours in the hotel room. The total time between flights might well be 9 hours but you have to get off the plane, to the hotel, sleep, back to the airport, report an hour before... It all adds up.
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