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How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:24 am

I'm sire they get their fair share of dust and grime from dirty fingers etc - how are they cleaned? I can't envisage a regular cleaning person being allowed in there with a damp cloth. FYI I'm talking about screens/switch panels etc.
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:45 pm

Things might have changed, but it's (or was) an engineer's job

http://www.pprune.org/archive/index.php/t-10821.html

And there are appropriate cleaning products

http://www.alglas.com/
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:44 pm

Here's what we do with Navy C-130s and C-12s.

Window cleaner for the glass, stiff painbrush for getting all the dust and stuff off the panels and a vacuum for the floors.
 
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:24 pm

For the DU's, Tech Ops and Flight Crews are provided with EFIS wipes to clean the screens. Info on those here:

http://www.zipchem.com/products/product_detail.aspx?id=MTA1

(I typically carry a couple of these in my laptop bag too so I can clean my screen...I get lots of smudges LOL)
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:00 pm

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 3):
For the DU's, Tech Ops and Flight Crews are provided with EFIS wipes to clean the screens. Info on those here:

http://www.zipchem.com/products/product_detail.aspx?id=MTA1

(I typically carry a couple of these in my laptop bag too so I can clean my screen...I get lots of smudges LOL)

Very interesting! Are those for sale to the public as well? I use a tablet computer so my screen gets dirty very quickly; I could see these being very useful to carry around.

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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:18 pm

Quoting KingFriday013 (Reply 4):
Very interesting! Are those for sale to the public as well? I use a tablet computer so my screen gets dirty very quickly; I could see these being very useful to carry around.

I don't see why you wouldn't be able to procure them. If I remember correctly from my "Stores" days, they come in quite a large case (for the pre-packed wet/dry towel combo...the cleaning product is also available in bottles which is a different story). The wet towel does dry out over time. Not sure how much it would cost to procure a small amount (1 case) at a time. I think the average cost is ~$60/case.

There is some interesting feedback on this site for tablet cleaning wipes:

http://www.gadgetrivia.com/8244-best...aning_wipe_notion_ink_adam_tablets
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:09 pm

And sometimes the guy/ girl from cleaning enter the cockpit with his vaccum cleaner and removes all the stuff on the floor 

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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:22 pm

I know at Delta, The AMT's use to clean the Flight deck, but after we did the overnight work. As we got leaner we ended up cleaning the Flight deck less and less. So now they have a Cabin AMT's and ASM's that clean and fix the Cabin and Flight Deck at certain Line Stations and in ATL. They do a great job too. The first time I saw them replace the carpet in the Flight deck, I swore the carpet was the OEM and was as thin as a sheet of paper  
 
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:05 am

Never worked for an airline that cleaned up there. Most of the time we did it.
 
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:18 am

Cleaning up the flight station was he job of the "Flight Engineer". Now that they are gone, you can't expect the drivers to actually do manual labor, so it more than likely just doesn't get done.  
 
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:03 am

Quoting 474218 (Reply 9):
Cleaning up the flight station was he job of the "Flight Engineer". Now that they are gone, you can't expect the drivers to actually do manual labor, so it more than likely just doesn't get done.

Oh, what are you talking about? The most important FO preflight duty is getting us a trashbag!  
 
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:21 am

Quoting PGNCS (Reply 10):
The most important FO preflight duty is getting us a trashbag!

   Indeed. Unless your airplane is equiped with a trash, like on the 744  Simply awesome airplane 

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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:37 am

Quoting 474218 (Reply 9):
Cleaning up the flight station was he job of the "Flight Engineer". Now that they are gone, you can't expect the drivers to actually do manual labor, so it more than likely just doesn't get done.

Not in any airline that I worked for , instead everybody picked up a sick bag and put their rubbish in them. During flight a damp flannel was used by crew members to clean old round dials and dirty panels

Now back in the days of Navigators with periscope sextant mounts, one of the crew realized that the opening for the sextant was the same size as a vacuum cleaner pipe, so on the next trip he brought a pipe with him and during the descent when the diff pressure had reduced somewhat, he connected the pipe to the sextant mount, opened the valve and he had a very good vacuum cleaner with which he cleaned the flight deck and all the dust went overboard   

Now as the story goes it was all OK and considered quite a good idea until it was tried with too much diff pressure and apparently the rubber liner on the inside of the tube was sucked out and flapped about on the outside skin of the aircraft.
The solution was to get rid of Navigators and you all thought they went because INS had come along   

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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:09 pm

We used to have glass cleaner wipes but now, nothing! Alot of crew bring their own wet wipes in (KFC branded) or they'll use a "hot towel" from the cabin. I know one chap carries a paint brush with him and brushes down the MCDU and all the surfaces. (just moves the dust around)
 
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:09 pm

Out here its Mx that handles cleaning of the flight deck too.
Its normally Vacuum cleaned under Mx supervision & then a Disinfectant is applied with cheesecloth over the Instruments & controls.
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:08 pm

Probably shouldn't say this but I've been told the best way to clean a flight deck of all dust etc...is to have a rapid decompression up in the cruise. Not ideal but I'm certain it'l clean the dirt out of those heard to reach areas.
 
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:59 am

Quoting 474218 (Reply 9):
Now that they are gone, you can't expect the drivers to actually do manual labor, so it more than likely just doesn't get done.

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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:28 am

Quoting vc10 (Reply 12):
Now back in the days of Navigators with periscope sextant mounts, one of the crew realized that the opening for the sextant was the same size as a vacuum cleaner pipe, so on the next trip he brought a pipe with him and during the descent when the diff pressure had reduced somewhat, he connected the pipe to the sextant mount, opened the valve and he had a very good vacuum cleaner with which he cleaned the flight deck and all the dust went overboard

In our Herc's we had a hose that would slip onto an overboard vent. We used the differential pressure to vacuum while in flight. The hose had a nice container in it to catch the larger stuff so only the dust went overboard.
 
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:48 am

Quoting phunc (Reply 15):
Not ideal but I'm certain it'l clean the dirt out of those heard to reach areas.

Considering the problems associatated with this action thereafter its not a wise method.
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:37 am

On one flight I did years ago, one of the RMP's failed, necessitating a replacement. When it was removed, we peered down the hole...

...besides the dust, bread crumbs and cobwebs, we managed to see a few dead cockroaches. Small ones at least.

Nevermind the stuff that goes on in the cabin, I have many many stories pertaining to that...
 
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:23 pm

I'm pretty sure ours might get cleaned on C checks. That's the impression I get every time I get into one of planes. Pilots are slobs, but we also don't have the time and tools to clean the floors and seat cushions.
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:29 am

Quoting buckfifty (Reply 19):

Nevermind the stuff that goes on in the cabin, I have many many stories pertaining to that...

Discovering Gold rings,chains,cellphone are some of the interesting discoveries......Including a Bucking bar once.  
Hopefully the returned items reached the rightfull owners.
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:31 am

Nothing like getting into your seat and finding that the control column and armrests feel like somebody just finished a KFC dinner and wiped their hands on them. Doesn't anybody wash their hands after eating these days?
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RE: How Are Cockpits Cleaned?

Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:48 am

A not too practical way but maybe effective is sudden decompression.
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