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Is It Possible To Trade Fuel Tanks For Cargo Bins?

Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:07 am

When an airline orders an airframe just for the capacity rather than the range (DL and the 764), is it possible to have the manufacturer put in an extra cargo bin where the ER fuel tank would go. Now, I realize that DL uses the range of the 764 now, but they originally ordered it for domestic runs, so they would not have needed the extra tanks if they had kept it domestic.
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RE: Is It Possible To Trade Fuel Tanks For Cargo Bins?

Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:12 am

Yes... USAirways did that with their 737's......
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RE: Is It Possible To Trade Fuel Tanks For Cargo Bins?

Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:17 am

You can put removable aux tanks in the forward and aft bellies on the 727 to get extended range as well.
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RE: Is It Possible To Trade Fuel Tanks For Cargo Bins?

Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:24 am

Quoting c5load (Thread starter):
When an airline orders an airframe just for the capacity rather than the range (DL and the 764), is it possible to have the manufacturer put in an extra cargo bin where the ER fuel tank would go

Generally no...on most ER models the extra tankage is either in the horizontal tail or an expanded center wing tank. In either case, you can't store baggage in the wing box or horizontal tail.

If you have an LR model (or some 737's) that have auxiliary fuel tanks in the cargo hold, you can remove those tanks to recover cargo space if you don't need them.

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):

Yes... USAirways did that with their 737's......

Are we talking removal of auxiliary tanks, or actually cutting into the normal tank system?

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RE: Is It Possible To Trade Fuel Tanks For Cargo Bins?

Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:05 pm

Marshall Aerospace has built and installed auxiliary fuel tanks in the cargo compartments of for several Boeing aircraft, including the the 747 and the 777. Additionally, they installed auxiliary tanks to a number of DL MD-11's and all the the Lockheed L-1011 tanker/tanker freighters operated by the RAF.

Marshall is currently working on auxiliary tanks for the Boeing P-8 which is a modified 737-800.
 
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RE: Is It Possible To Trade Fuel Tanks For Cargo Bins?

Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:02 am

There are (were?) some DC-9s that had an Fore and Aft Aux tanks, in addition to wing and center tanks.
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RE: Is It Possible To Trade Fuel Tanks For Cargo Bins?

Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:24 pm

Quoting fuelfool (Reply 5):
There are (were?) some DC-9s that had an Fore and Aft Aux tanks, in addition to wing and center tanks.

RC/NW had a couple DC9-30s with aux tanks in bin #2 (aft of the fwd cargo door). There was just cargo netting separating it from the rest of the bin as I recall.
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