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People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?

Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:12 pm

Yesterday on my delta connection flight, during the saftey announcements, there was an announcement about the cockpit being at the front of the aircraft.

Any reason for this? (aircraft was a e145)
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RE: People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?

Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:30 pm

I've often heard the flight deck location announced as a warning similar to "...the cockpit door at the front of the aircraft has been closed, it is a federal offense to attempt to gain entry into the flight deck..."

It makes sense to point out, especially in aircraft with lavatories in the front of the aircraft. I can imagine that there have been a few past instances of confused passengers tugging at the cockpit door latch thinking it was the bathroom door. The announcement is probably intended to prevent that sort of situation from happening as often.
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RE: People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?

Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:56 pm

When last did you see an aircraft with the cockpit in the tail?
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RE: People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?

Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:20 pm

Quoting SAAFNAV (Reply 2):
When last did you see an aircraft with the cockpit in the tail?

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RE: People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?

Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:52 pm

Quoting SAAFNAV (Reply 2):
When last did you see an aircraft with the cockpit in the tail?

As crazy and stupid as it sounds... and while most people see up front as they board.. in flight, you'ld be surprised how many people still go looking for the lav at the front and a door is a door is a door to them.. thankfully they usually don't try the cabin door thanks to the window.. but they do try to use our cockpit door equally with the closet door... these announcements are simply to remind them not to pull on it... same reason at my airline they put huge placards that say "Authorized Personnel Only" on our door and forgo the verbal announcement about our location...
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RE: People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?

Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:30 pm

Quoting web500sjc (Thread starter):
Any reason for this? (aircraft was a e145)

People aren't always paying attention, walk to the front, and try to open the door. As stated above, a door is a door. On some regional aircraft, where the lav door and cockpit door are right beside each other (lav to the left obviously), there is a sign that says the usual "Authorized Personnel Only" then, below it, says "Lavatory" with an arrow pointing to that door. I have seen passengers almost go for the cockpit door, pause, and then try the correct door.

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RE: People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?

Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:52 pm

Quoting SAAFNAV (Reply 2):
When last did you see an aircraft with the cockpit in the tail?

Thunderbirds 'Fireflash' had it's cockpit in the fin  
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RE: People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?

Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:25 pm

Well when you're on a Caravan they have to let you know the cockpit officially begins at the pilot's seatback because there's no actual partition.
 
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RE: People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?

Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:10 am

This helps the tail gunner know which way to go.
 
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RE: People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?

Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:27 am

Quoting CosmicCruiser (Reply 3):
The GeeBee....

Good one!

Quoting ThePinnacleKid (Reply 4):

As crazy and stupid as it sounds... and while most people see up front as they board.. in flight, you'ld be surprised how many people still go looking for the lav at the front and a door is a door is a door to them.. thankfully they usually don't try the cabin door thanks to the window.. but they do try to use our cockpit door equally with the closet door... these announcements are simply to remind them not to pull on it... same reason at my airline they put huge placards that say "Authorized Personnel Only" on our door and forgo the verbal announcement about our location...

How sad is it that you have to think for most people. And not only aviation...
The average guy just won't give one second to think something through, but they will believe any random false fact.
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RE: People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?

Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:36 pm

In the same announcement they have to explain to the same passengers how to operate a seat belt.
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RE: People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?

Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:16 am

When I've heard "the cockpit is at the front of the plane", it's generally been followed by something like "no queue can form for the lavatory at the front of the aircraft", i.e. justifying why you might be asked to sit down even though you really have to pee.  
 
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RE: People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?

Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:49 am

Didn't anyone see the Are You Being Served movie where Mr. Grainger mistakenly goes into the cockpit instead of the bathroom?
 
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RE: People Need To Know Where The Cockpit Is?

Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:27 pm

Rember Kramer falling into the cockpit, last episode of Seinfeld, tried to google it, can't believe its not there.

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