goblin211
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ATCs--what's Your Story?

Sun May 15, 2011 8:25 pm

I would like to work at the airport personally, ATL, ORD, EWR, SFO, JFK, or LAX. But all ATCs are welcome to give me a better insight into the job. I would appreciate it if you'd tell me how you got to be where you are now so I can better understand how to accomplish my goal.
Specifically:
-education
-what kind of controller are you
-how you cope with the stress (especially at ATL)
Anything else you'd like to add would be greatly appreciated.
I plan on attending ERAU and am a senior in high school. I'm sure you'll tell me I'm crazy but I'm fascinated with your line of work and have been for a very long time. Thanks.
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Sun May 15, 2011 9:20 pm

ATC is a great profession. I get to play with airplanes. Plain and simple. My career started in the Navy. I was a controller at NAS Brunswick ATCT/TRACON. It was an "up/down" meaning the facility worked both Tower and Approach. the USN gave me a great opportunity learn ATC and set me up perfectly for the FAA. The ATC was the same except we had to wear a uniform and was payed a lot less. Some controllers go the military route, others choose CTI. It all depends on the individual. The military offers live traffic, not simulators and you will not be in debt with student loans when you separate. After the Navy, I worked at a couple VFR Towers in New England. Then I was "picked up" at Washington ARTCC. Enroute was not my cup of tea. It is more strategic in thinking; like chess. I hate chess. The Terminal world is very tactical. Think short term planning. From ZDC, I transfered to Albany ATCT/TRACON in upstate NY. "Up/downs" are the best facilities to work at. You get to play both Tower and Approach so you never get tired of one or the other. From ALB, I transfered to ORD ATCT. I have been here 5 1/2 years and enjoy plugging in everyday. training at O'Hare was the hardest, most difficult thing I have ever done. The day I certified, it felt as though the entire weight of the World lifted from my shoulders. Outbound Ground is my favorite position to work. Inbound Ground, however, is like herding cats. Working North Local on plan X is also entertaining.

Don't be fooled by ATL, a monkey can work parallels.   

Best of luck to you.

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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Sun May 15, 2011 9:41 pm

Quoting P3Orion (Reply 1):


Thank you. I want to go to college rather than the Navy, with all do respect. My plan is to go to ERAU but if you or anyone else that responds knows of a cheaper college with ATC Management as a major I'd much appreciate it. I don't really like Florida and would love to live somewhere else within a year as I am a high school senior.

Quoting P3Orion (Reply 1):
I have been here 5 1/2 years and enjoy plugging in everyday. training at O'Hare was the hardest, most difficult thing I have ever done. The day I certified, it felt as though the entire weight of the World lifted from my shoulders. Outbound Ground is my favorite position to work. Inbound Ground, however, is like herding cats. Working North Local on plan X is also entertaining.

I envy you very much right now.  Wow!
Quoting P3Orion (Reply 1):
Don't be fooled by ATL, a monkey can work parallels.

LOL.
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Mon May 16, 2011 4:09 pm

You may also want to look at Beaver College in Pennsylvania, they one of only a few CTI schools that allow the students to work in the real tower at the airport and obtain a CTO. I am not sure about the cost, but that is a huge plus when looking for a gov't job. Also the college formerly known as Daniel Webster in Nashua, NH is still operating their CTI school, although the rest of the flight department has been/is being disbanded. If you can get your hands on the March 2011 issue of FLYING magazine, they have a whole section on aviation oriented schools, while its mostly for flight training, many of them also have ATC CTI programs.

My background was also Navy, I spent 5 years down in New Orleans at the NAS down there, now I work for a contractor up here in Northern New England, and been here about 5 years. In talking to several of the ZBW guys very few of the new generation are ex military, most have come from CTI schools such as ERAU.

Hope this helps.
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue May 17, 2011 12:53 am

I'll throw my vote in for CCBC in PA as well. I went there from September 2007 to December of 2008. If you go through the terminal program, you'll get to work the tower (enroute doesn't work the tower for obvious reasons) However, you no longer receive a CTO from the program. Something about the FAA coming in and saying the hours for training weren't enough. (35 on ground and 35 on local, which in my opinion was more than enough for Beaver). But the school is still great, and quick. I was out of state, and paid a total of $16000 to go. If you can transfer any credits in, or if you get your private pilots licence before you go, that time and cost will reduce. I suggest going to their website and finding the contact info for Jim Scott, he runs the program.

I got picked up from a CTO announcement (my class was the 2nd to last to get them) and was hired within 8 months. Average wait time right now is 1-2 years. But there are still people from my class that aren't working yet. The numbers the FAA had projected to retire and slowing down. More people are hanging on because the pay started to creep back up.

I started with the FAA in Portland, Maine. I was only there for 6 months, and had to get what is called a hardship transfer for my wife and some medical conditions she had. I wanted to stay in Maine, but gotta make the boss happy.

I tried to get a transfer to somewhere in VA, where she is from, but the best the FAA could do was BWI (Baltimore, MD). After a little over a year there, I was given the opportunity to transfer out and get my wife back home. So I took a transfer to Potomac TRACON (Terminal Radar Approach Control) which handles all radar services from basically Richmond, VA up to Washington Dulles, then over to BWI and most of the Eastern Shore. The facility is divided up into 4 areas, but I'll leave all that lame stuff out.

So less than 2 years in, and I'm on my 3rd facility. It's not like I suck or anything   I was certified in Baltimore, just didn't like the area and had the chance to jump ship. I honestly can't imagine doing anything different. Like P3 said, you get to play with airplanes all day. There is a great amount of respect for the guys that work those complex airports. And yes, anyone can work 7 parallels. But there is something to be said to pulling out a pad of paper and a pen and working a small VFR tower.

There is also a website, www.stuckmic.com which has a wealth of information about ATC, the hiring process, the training Academy in Oklahoma, etc.
 
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue May 17, 2011 3:14 am

I'll chime in here; I'm not a controller but I witness alot of their activities and apart of the whole show.

The agency reports a 20-30% failure rate at the academy and that's starting to rise. Too many people are passing at the academy and failing out at their duty stations; so inorder to combat that. The agency is stepping up training at the academy. Clean testing...more EHoT/DoP deals.

Also; OEP airports are great...alot of traffic. But the stress isn't from the job; it's from trying to learn the facility as fast as you can. I've seen a person or 2 get checked out in a year. I've seen plenty more fail out.

If you really want to cut your teeth in this field, try a real facility... N90 or JFK. N90 has a 90% failure rate from what I hear and at JFK; the numbers are similar.
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue May 17, 2011 3:52 am

Quoting P3Orion (Reply 1):
Don't be fooled by ATL, a monkey can work parallels.

   And, it's true.
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue May 17, 2011 4:34 am

Quoting P3Orion (Reply 1):
Don't be fooled by ATL, a monkey can work parallels.

Hey, soon you too will be a monkey.  

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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue May 17, 2011 4:53 am

Quoting mmedford (Reply 5):
N90 has a 90% failure rate from what I hear and at JFK; the numbers are similar.

N90 has that high failure rate because a lot of the CPCs don't give the Developmentals the time of day. That's where that number came from.
 
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue May 17, 2011 4:36 pm

Quoting mmedford (Reply 5):
If you really want to cut your teeth in this field, try a real facility... N90 or JFK. N90 has a 90% failure rate from what I hear and at JFK; the numbers are similar.

I would recommend trying to go to a ATC 8 or 9 "up/down" as your first facility. A place like BUF, BNA or IND are busy enough so you learn the fundamentals and basics and can develop your skills. Anyplace slower and you will learn bad habits. A busier facility might be overwhelming. There is nothing wrong with a goal of working at a 12, just be smart about it and work your way up.
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue May 17, 2011 9:17 pm

Quoting P3Orion (Reply 9):
I would recommend trying to go to a ATC 8 or 9 "up/down" as your first facility. A place like BUF, BNA or IND are busy enough so you learn the fundamentals and basics and can develop your skills. Anyplace slower and you will learn bad habits. A busier facility might be overwhelming. There is nothing wrong with a goal of working at a 12, just be smart about it and work your way up.

From what i've heard is that the agency stopped sending new hires to level 11 and level 12's now because of the wash rate was so high. But i'm not privy to the hiring. I love where I am at though because it is a lot like you described.
 
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue May 17, 2011 9:47 pm

Quoting Tower (Reply 10):
From what i've heard is that the agency stopped sending new hires to level 11 and level 12's now because of the wash rate was so high. But i'm not privy to the hiring. I love where I am at though because it is a lot like you described.



It is not fair for a new hire to be dumped into an ATC 10 or higher, isn't fair to them nor those who must provide the OJT to them for the next few years.

I started in the military, then to the academy after my 4 years were up in the Army, then to a Level 3 Radar/Tower facility where I got some seasoning for a couple of years and finally to the Level 5, now ATC 12. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!  
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue May 17, 2011 11:36 pm

Another Beaver grad here! Great program, and I highly recomend it or a similar CTI school if you don't want to go the military route. The only downside was living in Beaver Falls, but I digress...

I went through the terminal program as I also shared your dream of working a busy tower like ATL or DFW. So where did I end up? Fort Worth ARTCC. A bit of a let down initially, but now I'm convinced it was a blessing. Level 12 pay, relatively low cost of living, and good southern cooking. I love what I do, the only drawback being I don't get to look out the window while I work. Don't limit yourself to only wanting a tower job. Be prepared to expand your horizons.

I will also echo P3Orion's suggestion of starting at a smaller facility and working your way up. The choice of facilities will ultimately be out of your hands, but don't be disappointed if you don't land at the top of the heap right away. If you wash out of a busy facility, either your career is over or you may be reassigned to a smaller one. It is an excellent idea to gain some experience at a smaller facility and work your way to the top. Do what's best for your career and not your ego. You do not want to spend tens of thousands of dollars on an education only to wash out and be looking for a new line of work before your 25th birthday. I knew a few ERAU grads that washed out at the Academy and they had massive student loans that still had to be paid off. Pace yourself and consider what's best in the long term.

That said, go for it and keep an open mind. Other that actually being in the cockpit, I can't think of anything I would rarther be doing with my life.

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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Wed May 18, 2011 3:28 am

Quoting P3Orion (Reply 1):
Don't be fooled by ATL, a monkey can work parallels.

But I get paid more than those ORD/JFK people  


I went to CCBC in Pittsburgh. 2 year degree, hired by the FAA, sent to a 12 tower. Hoping to get my orders for a 9 TRACON this week (fingers crossed).


ATCT
(we may not have the planes of ORD and ATL....but I make more money   )

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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Wed May 18, 2011 12:14 pm

Quoting atct (Reply 13):
But I get paid more than those ORD/JFK people



Nicely done ATCT, but I like how you knew the comment was directed at your type of facility!!!   
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Sun May 22, 2011 2:28 pm

Change to my post above. 3 Weeks left at my tower, then transferring to a Level 9 TRACON in the great white northland! Get to go be a radar man for a few years.

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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:03 pm

Quoting PapaChuck (Reply 12):

My mom doesn't want me going to a community college. If it is one, that's the impression i received when i searched it. also, I live in Fl so it would be a pain to get back and forth stuff to/from the school and making it home for breaks. ERAU is more realistic but I have the utmost respect for Beaver! I understand where you're coming from as far as starting at smallwer airports first but can't i just level down if it doesn't work out at Level 12? If I can get ORD Ground or Tower I'm going for it and if i wash up I could just go down to a smaller airport right? Thanks for your advice.
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:25 pm

Quoting goblin211 (Reply 16):
My mom doesn't want me going to a community college.

CTI programs are not offered far and wide. Make her aware of the realistic options.

Quoting goblin211 (Reply 16):
but can't i just level down if it doesn't work out at Level 12?

Keep in mind, the agency can also "level" you "down" to the sidewalk in front of the facility. There are no guarantees. Starting at the top end is not the normal in any career. There are facilities much smaller than ORD and ATL that people can't hack it at. I saw a New York TRACON guy come to the Center option, and fall flat on his face.
Every facility is different.
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Quoting goblin211 (Reply 16):
If I can get ORD Ground or Tower I'm going for it and if i wash up I could just go down to a smaller airport right?

Like I said above, and it applies at any facility, if you wash out, the agency owes you NOTHING. What's your second career choice?
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:54 pm

The Beaver program is associated with a community college, and I certainly understand your mother's concerns about getting a good education. However, let me explain the irony of my education and choice of career paths. I have my Bachelor's Degree from a four year university (took me five and a half, but again I digress). About half way through, I decided to take a serious look at ATC, but decided to finish the program I was in. After graduation I did my homework, decided on Beaver, applied, and took it from there.

Here's the irony: I don't use my four year degree at all. Sure, I'm glad I have it in case I need it to fall back on it some day, but my ATC career started at a little community college north of Pittsburgh. Do your homework, and find a school that is going to set you up for success. Riddle and Beaver are two excellent programs, and there are other excellent schools as well, but don't let a community college deter you. I'm convinced that Beaver was the best choice for me personally, and I do not regret it even if it was a bit of a downgrade after getting a "real" degree.

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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:58 pm

I have a friend who works in NY Center. He started as a controller in Fort Worth center, had some difficulty and transferred to a flight data position at Chicago Center. Eventually he transferred to Quality Control there, and recently he transferred to NY Center. Not the most glamorous job, but you can stay in the industry even if controlling doesn't work out.
 
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:56 pm

Quoting SPREE34 (Reply 17):
There are facilities much smaller than ORD and ATL that people can't hack it



The joint I started was a Level 3 TRACAB (back in the day of a facility grade rated as a level), not even a busy place and we had a few people that washed out. There is no guarantee for becoming a CPC.

Quoting SPREE34 (Reply 17):
Starting at the top end is not the normal in any career.



And the Captain flying the airplane the brand new ATC person is attempting to sequence didn't start in the left seat of a B744 either in their first month on the job. Pay your dues, you'll have a much more rewarding long career.

Quoting SPREE34 (Reply 17):
There are facilities much smaller than ORD and ATL that people can't hack it
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:58 am

I work at a Level 8 TRACON and I'm glad that it is my first facility. I still talk to quite a few people who went to level 11 and level 12 facilities and it is much tougher. I eventually want to make it to LAS ATCT or TRACON at some point though!

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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:39 am

Quoting apodino (Reply 19):
He started as a controller in Fort Worth center, had some difficulty and transferred to a flight data position at Chicago Center.

Was this guy from Embry? Left Ft.Worth around 2007?
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:25 pm

Quoting PHLapproach (Reply 8):
Quoting mmedford (Reply 5):
N90 has a 90% failure rate from what I hear and at JFK; the numbers are similar.

N90 has that high failure rate because a lot of the CPCs don't give the Developmentals the time of day. That's where that number came from.

Having done a tour of N90 recently, I was told that the failure rate was closer to 95%. I guess lots of of potential ATC'ers fail the initial entry. Those that survive will fail out of out of Oklahoma City. And of those that survive Oklahoma City will most likely fail at N90. Extreme washout rate...that's just incredible.
 
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:36 am

Quoting Northwest727 (Reply 23):
will most likely fail at N90. Extreme washout rate...that's just incredible.

It's lunacy for a new hire to be sent to places like that. It guarantees a high washout rate, in a career with an already high washout rate.

N90, ATL, ORD, DFW and alike call for experience built at lower density facilities.
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:28 pm

Quoting goblin211 (Thread starter):

Hi Goblin! I just graduated from the CTI program at ERAU. Tuition is rather high, but I'd do it again in a heartbeat. The professors here (specifically air traffic and aero. science profs.) come from a wide range of backgrounds and really care about their students. I really feel the money I spent here (yes MY money, not my parent's :P) was worth it and I really value the quality of education I received from Riddle. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me!
 
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:50 pm

Hi, from this side of the pond
Could someone pls post up a board what the levels are, and responsibilities?

Quoting FX1816 (Reply 21):
I work at a Level 8 TRACON and I'm glad that it is my first facility

What can you do/not do at such a level.
And what is the top slot? TIA
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:06 am

Quoting readytotaxi (Reply 26):
Quoting FX1816 (Reply 21):
I work at a Level 8 TRACON and I'm glad that it is my first facility

What can you do/not do at such a level.
And what is the top slot? TIA

I guess I'm confused, what can I do/ not do??? Level 12 is the highest for an ATC facility and I'm sure there are quite a few things used to place a facility at a certain level but I know one of the biggest, if not the biggest reason is Traffic levels.

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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:51 pm

Since we covered everything but the salary, what is it for an ATC in a tower vs that of a TRACON? I was told starting out it was 100k and up to 250k. I don't know which is for which though. I look forward to going to school to accomplish my goal and I'm sure my professors will give me their advice. I have the confidence in myself to do a level 12, which is what is most important. I think I can handle it and schooling will help me. Thanks for all of your input.
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:26 pm

Let me start by saying this: do not decide your career path based on solely on pay. You will be miserable. Choose something that you have enthusiasm for and enjoy. That is the true reward.

As for pay, The type of facility (Tower, TRACON, Up/Down, Center) has absolutely nothing to do with pay-scale. It is the level (ATC5-12) that determines what you make. The levels are determined by an index that takes into account traffic count, complexity, type of traffic (Air Carrier, Air Taxi, Military and General Aviation) as well as a few other factors. I work at ORD ATCT and we are a 12. IND ATCT (Up/Down) is a 9, Cape TRACON is an 8, TEB ATCT is a 7. ARTCC's will either be a 10, 11 or 12. While at the Academy I believe your pay will be in the mid 30's. Once you are checked out (CPC) at your facility the base pay will range from upper 40's (ATC 5) to the low 100's (ATC 12).

As for going to a 12 right out of school, given a choice, I do not recommend it. I'll use my facility as an example. We have transfers from places like SFO and LGA that wash out. Military controllers, who have actual experience, have an extremely difficult time. With CTI's, no experience, its that much more of a struggle. Yes, some succeed. But they are the exception, not the rule. You need to develope skills and fundimentals. At an ATC 8 or 9 you will be given the time to learn and develope. To grow as a controller and acquire the tools necessary to work busy traffic. You need to crawl (CTI and Academy) before you walk, and walk before you run (ATC 11, 12).
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:00 pm

Quoting goblin211 (Reply 28):
Since we covered everything but the salary, what is it for an ATC in a tower vs that of a TRACON? I was told starting out it was 100k and up to 250k.

Not even close. here's a place to look. www.stuckmic.com/faa-union-issues/7026-2010-2012-pay-scales.html
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:02 am

Quoting goblin211 (Reply 28):

While I admire your confidence in yourself, as many controllers have said in this thread, it would be of great benefit to yourself to start at a lower level facility in the terminal world such as a 7,8, or 9. This way you understand the basics and build not only good habits but also techniques.

This coming from a developmental at a level 11 terminal facility.
 
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:01 pm

Quoting Tower (Reply 31):
This coming from a developmental at a level 11 terminal facility.

goblin211, listen to this guy. He is speaking from current experience.
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:43 pm

Quoting goblin211 (Reply 2):
My plan is to go to ERAU but if you or anyone else that responds knows of a cheaper college with ATC Management as a major I'd much appreciate it. I don't really like Florida and would love to live somewhere else within a year as I am a high school senior.

Look at the University of North Dakota. I am attending it next year for Commercial aviation and Air Traffic control. Excellent program. Sure it gets a lot colder than what you're used to but its much cheaper than ERAU (and better :P)
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RE: ATCs--what's Your Story?

Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:42 am

I'm amazed that most folks on here are CTI's or looking into becoming CTI students. Wouldn't you like to get paid to learn atc AND get preference over CTI's in the hiring process? If so, here's a link you may want to check out: http://airforce.com. As long as you're not pressed up against the age 31 hiring deadline, it's a great option. It's only 4 years, and like I said, they pay you to learn...and you get to talk to REAL airplanes, which is invaluable for when you get hired by the FAA. Just my $.02.


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