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Flight Crew Layovers On Long Haul Flights

Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:10 am

simple question which i have wondered when flying to and from europe, yet i haven't been able to find the answer too through various searches.

how long will flight crew layover in a particular city? for example take a continental crew on EWR-LHR trips, EWR-ATH trips, EWR-HNL trips. or an AA DFW-NRT / HNL trip?

would a crew flying EWR-LHR depart EWR in the evening to arrive at LHR in the morning, rest the remainder of the day and head back to EWR the next morning/afternoon? or is there another full day of rest involved? do they typically have time to see the local sights/enjoy themselves in the evening ect?

i know this is one of those questions with many variables to consider, but i am just interested in a basic hub - destination round trip.

feel free to post real life examples as well
 
wilco737
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RE: Flight Crew Layovers On Long Haul Flights

Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:02 pm

Quoting CO 757-300 (Thread starter):

Depends on the airline and how often you do the flight.

If you fly to a destination only twice a week you will have a pretty long layover. If you fly daily the airline wants you to fly back on the next day (24 hour) layover.
But of course there are longer layovers.

We mostly have 24 hours. Only the trips with a lot time difference have 48 hours, e.g. LAX, SFO, BKK, SIN.

As well for South America as the flights are 100% through the night, you get 48 hours as well (sometimes even 72 hours).

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flymia
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RE: Flight Crew Layovers On Long Haul Flights

Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:21 pm

As Wilco said it depends on the flight schedule and airline. But for example a pilot flying on AA MIA-LHR or BOS-CDG will fly that evening get in the morning, sleep for a bit, wake up spend the rest of the afternoon in the city, go back to sleep and head out that morning.
But then there are flights like red eyes to South America. 11pm departure to EZE 11pm Departure to JFK for example. Well the crew I think most of the time will spend two days one night, so land in EZE in the morning have the day, sleep, and the next night takeoff back to their destination.
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RE: Flight Crew Layovers On Long Haul Flights

Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:13 pm

Quoting flymia (Reply 2):
But then there are flights like red eyes to South America.

Yeah, we have those as well: EZE departure is close to 11pm as well and then an almost 14 hour flight you need a little more to rest...
I haven't done that flight yet and I am not bidding for it. It is simply very exhausting that long flight through the night. Shame though as EZE is pretty nice...

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RE: Flight Crew Layovers On Long Haul Flights

Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:47 am

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 1):
As well for South America as the flights are 100% through the night, you get 48 hours as well (sometimes even 72 hours).

Delta gives their FAs 36 hours on the ATL-EZE run. I flew down on a Friday evening, and my return flight the following Sunday one of the same flight attendants was on the return. We chatted for a bit. EZE was the only flight she did.
 
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RE: Flight Crew Layovers On Long Haul Flights

Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:48 am

Quoting CO 757-300 (Thread starter):
would a crew flying EWR-LHR depart EWR in the evening to arrive at LHR in the morning, rest the remainder of the day and head back to EWR the next morning/afternoon?

For this type of thing if the flight is 7x weekly, then there is one crew perpetually on the layover and they'll take the next day's flight back.

i.e. Tuesday evening EWR-ATH
Wednesday morning arrival in Athens, layover
Thursday morning, ATH-EWR

If the season or city is one where the flight is 3-6x weekly, then there will be some gaps where a crew will have an extra day or two or three on layover waiting for the next inbound plane to come in which they will take back to wherever.

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