billreid
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Minimum Bag Delivery Times

Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:12 pm

Question: what are the expected delivery times for first and last bags for B757, MD80, B737.
Also: B767, A320, A330 etc.
I realize airport layout is critical.
Is first bag in 35 minutes, last bag 50 minutes reasonable for a B757 when the ramp agents are literally two minutes walk from the inbound bag belt? 20 seconds away on a tug. No other inbound flits occur at the same time.
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RE: Minimum Bag Delivery Times

Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:17 pm

In my experience, bag times are not tied to an aircraft type. The company usually has a standard delivery time for all bags. Sometimes, there are hundreds of bags and only 3 guys to download the inbound aircraft. That could be the reason why it took so long to receive your luggage.
 
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RE: Minimum Bag Delivery Times

Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:16 am

It used to depend upon how much US Mail was onboard. The post office waits for no-one, I had a manager once tell me the fine was around $10k for late mail delivery to them. Consequently, many times I would have to drop the mail before the baggage. I'm sure the passengers understood....   
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RE: Minimum Bag Delivery Times

Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:41 pm

Company policy dictats bag times. 15min for the first bag to be dropped and 25 for the last. Thats my airline B6. However, this doesn't always happen. Lots of factors play into it. Main problem is usually how the up city packed the belly. If you have comat, mail and transfer bags in the way of the direct bags, well then your gonna have delays on getting those bags on the belt. Also and this has become a HUGE issue. Wait for it, wait for it.... GATE CHECKS. Ah yes gate checks. Gate checks without a doubt is the most time consumming thing while doing a flight on the ground. Especially when one poor bastard has to do it themselves. Non containerized aircraft of course are gonna take sometime to dump.
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RE: Minimum Bag Delivery Times

Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:27 am

Quoting billreid (Thread starter):
Is first bag in 35 minutes, last bag 50 minutes reasonable for a B757

Well at delta the first bag should be down 20 minutes and the last bag should out by 35 minutes. What we used to was fill up one cart of bags, then a driver would drive the one cart to baggage claim while the crew would offload the rest of the plane. When the driver returned he would take the rest of the bags to baggage claim. of course this would be done without sorting first class bags. Now we put all first class and transfers in one cart while the rest of the locals go into the other carts and everything will be dropped at once in baggage claim within the 20 minute limit
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RE: Minimum Bag Delivery Times

Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:02 pm

When I worked at ORD at the International terminal the operations were set up that within 8 minutes of the cargo doors opening the first bags were expected on the carousel. Obviously in order of F-J-Connection bags.

We continually were able to get the "cans" to the belt within the time allotted. Mind you, these times were wide body aircraft.

When we worked Mexicana/Aeromexico, it took about 10 minutes since we'd have two in the belly, and 1-2 stacking bags.

When I worked for American Eagle in DBQ, where the carousel is literally 100 feet from the cargo door we'd have the bags on the carousel before all the pax were off the plane  !

So yes, there are shorter times.
 
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RE: Minimum Bag Delivery Times

Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:49 am

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 4):
What we used to was fill up one cart of bags, then a driver would drive the one cart to baggage claim while the crew would offload the rest of the plane. When the driver returned he would take the rest of the bags to baggage claim. of course this would be done without sorting first class bags.

We used to drop bags this way just to make the delivery time; it was usually on inbounds from other hubs who can never seem to sort locals and connects, so the downloads take forever. This went on for a while until a whole bunch company execs came in from one of those other hubs. All of their bags were priority labeled. As the drop time approached, the local runner took off with what he had picked out of the bag salad. What no one knew was that all of the priority bags had been loaded in the taper, behind all of the other bags. The practice of making multiple drops was discontinued soon thereafter.

[Edited 2011-08-20 00:52:23]
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RE: Minimum Bag Delivery Times

Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:33 pm

that is why that system failed miserably. I am sorry but if I was a pax I would find it annoying seeing people from my flight getting their bags first and then having the belt shut off and wait another 10 minutes for the rest of the bags to come down.
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RE: Minimum Bag Delivery Times

Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:30 am

The joys of working for a LCC, no first class or business bags. Everyone is first class.   
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RE: Minimum Bag Delivery Times

Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:09 pm

Must be nice to have all that help on the ramp where you can spare one to take off with the first loaded bag cart! Too many times in smaller spoke stations, if you had two on the ramp to load and unload a turn, you were overstaffed.    (That's why I look like this now)
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RE: Minimum Bag Delivery Times

Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:10 am

Quoting exFWAOONW (Reply 9):

I couldn't agree more with that statement. To add to that, if you were already short handed, and had a another flight come in ontop of that flight, those bags became the lessor of the priority, than that airplane coming in. People in most terms have no clue how short airlines work ramps, especially passengers. My airline "IF" we are lucky we have 3 rampers for 4 EMO's and 6 turns. To this day I am truly amazed how we even get it done.
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RE: Minimum Bag Delivery Times

Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:04 am

There is one operation that I'm aware of where baggage is handled perfectly. United Airlines @ SFO's International Terminal. Without fail, every-time, my priority marked bag beats me to the carousel. It seems like every other airport, priority bags either come out at the same time as all the other bags or are not even segregated.

Also, waiting more than 20 minutes for first bag is unacceptable in any circumstance. If first bag does not hit within 20 minutes of the plane arriving at the gate, the baggage handling operation has failed IMO - no excuses.

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