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Pax Window Blinds In USA

Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:39 pm

Recently I was on a few internal American Airlines flights and I noticed that there was no requirement to have the window blinds open for take off and landing, in the EU were I fly normally this seems to be mandatory. Is this due to different legislation and if so what is the reason for it anyway? my understanding is so the cabin crew can identify an engine on fire or such, is this similar to the lights being dimmed at night for take off and landing also?

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RE: Pax Window Blinds In USA

Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:10 am

at bmi, the only window blinds that must be open for take off and landing are emergency exits.
 
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RE: Pax Window Blinds In USA

Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:27 am

The window blind rules are different in different countries. In the US, no one seems to care. In Asia and Europe sometimes yes and sometimes no.

I think the logic is that in an emergency, the pax will be able to see which wing is fine and which side is on fire. Then their panicked little brains will discard that information and plunge them into the inferno. But I digress...
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RE: Pax Window Blinds In USA

Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:20 pm

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 2):
I think the logic is that in an emergency, the pax will be able to see which wing is fine


I think windows provide natural light, and in an emergency a brighter cabin helps to find the exit and not to stumble.
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RE: Pax Window Blinds In USA

Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:18 pm

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 2):
Then their panicked little brains will discard that information and plunge them into the inferno. But I digress...

Thank you Starlionblue, literally lol'ed at that one! Pretty accurate assessment of human nature though, must say.  

I don't recall ever having the shades addressed by the flight attendants at all, not even the emergency exit ones. I have only flown domestic though.

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RE: Pax Window Blinds In USA

Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:25 pm

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 2):
I think the logic is that in an emergency, the pax will be able to see which wing is fine and which side is on fire. Then their panicked little brains will discard that information and plunge them into the inferno. But I digress...

They also switch off the cabin lights before landing. With the blinds open and the lights out your eyes will become accustomed to ambient light levels. Even if there is no inferno to blunder into, you'd not do too well on the escape slides if your night vision was not optimal.
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RE: Pax Window Blinds In USA

Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:31 am

There is not a FAA reg requiring window blinds to be up or down. Primary exits such as doors are required to keep their window blinds open, but that is it.

Now some carriers might have a policy that states that window shades have to be open during taxi/takeoff/landing, but that would only be a Company policy. However, if it is a Company policy and written into an operational manual than the carrier would have to enforce it as if it was a FAR.

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RE: Pax Window Blinds In USA

Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:44 am

Airlines in the US actually instruct passengers to lower shades before takeoff for overnight flights, such as transatlantic. Unfortunately, there's always some jack @$$ who insists on opening the shade during the later part of the flight when it's light thereby waking up everyone else nearby.
 
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RE: Pax Window Blinds In USA

Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:02 am

Quoting genybustrvlr (Reply 7):
Unfortunately, there's always some jack @$$ who insists on opening the shade during the later part of the flight when it's light thereby waking up everyone else nearby.

Yet another advantage of electrochromic window shades...the flight attendants can lock them out so that doesn't happen.

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RE: Pax Window Blinds In USA

Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:02 pm

Quoting genybustrvlr (Reply 7):
Airlines in the US actually instruct passengers to lower shades before takeoff for overnight flights, such as transatlantic. Unfortunately, there's always some jack @$$ who insists on opening the shade during the later part of the flight when it's light thereby waking up everyone else nearby.

LOL guilty as charged!

And I'm a super courteous person, I just think that if I've paid for my ticket I've got as much right to look at a beautiful sunrise as the guy next to me has to sleep through it. Nobody knows how many they have left, eh?

The difference is that that those who want to sleep have the option of wearing something over their eyes. Those masks are available in every airport and cost nothing compared to an international flight. I do not have the option of employing x-ray vision to see through the window blinds.

So maybe the rest of the people on the plane are wrong for not coming prepared to meet their own needs and depriving me of one of the few joys of air travel? Food for thought.

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RE: Pax Window Blinds In USA

Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:30 pm

Quoting genybustrvlr (Reply 7):
there's always some jack @$$ who insists on opening the shade during the later part of the flight when it's light thereby waking up everyone else nearby.
Quoting CharlieNoble (Reply 9):
The difference is that that those who want to sleep have the option of wearing something over their eyes.

Agreed. Bring your eyeshades, and everyone gets what they want.
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