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Delta MD-88 Nose Gear Skidding

Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:58 pm

Ok, maybe this could be a repost, but I made a research and was not able to find it. When I first saw this video I even thought that the wheels were passing by water ponds or something, but no, it was that the aircraft was skidding. For a moment it seemed to me it was going out of control. I thought maybe he was instructed to perform an immediate take off as if another aircraft were on short final. I believe that the wheels got some kind of damage.

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RE: Delta MD-88 Nose Gear Skidding

Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:26 pm

They just scrubbed the nose wheels. That will happen if you have the tiller turned too much and add power. They probably just got into too much of a hurry and should have gotten the nose gear straightened out more before shoving the power in. It can happen during taxiing and landing too if you are going to fast for the amount the wheel is turned for that given speed.
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RE: Delta MD-88 Nose Gear Skidding

Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:46 am

I can just picture Jeremy Clarkson at the controls screaming "POWWERRR!!!"

Probably took a few weeks off of the effective lives of those tires, but it's not that unusual to have some slippage of the nose wheels, or sometimes even the mains. There's a lot of power available, and not much weight on the wheels at all, can't expect sports-car handling on the ground.
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RE: Delta MD-88 Nose Gear Skidding

Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:16 am

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RE: Delta MD-88 Nose Gear Skidding

Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:25 am

Is there any indication on the flightdeck that the nosewheels are skidding? Any noise or vibration?
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RE: Delta MD-88 Nose Gear Skidding

Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:58 am

Becuse of the angle of the nose gear on the DC-9/MD88/90, if you turn the tiller too hard on it will go up on 1 nose wheel. With running up on 1 wheel and mostly side wall you get the skidding, and is ok. It will also happen on the DC-10 / MD-11. I have been on a 90 and MD-11 when skidding during taxiing, and there is a vibration and sound in the flt deck. But when I was on the above acft it was during mtc and was light, so not sure on a heavy loaded acft. HTH
 
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RE: Delta MD-88 Nose Gear Skidding

Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:41 am

If that Monarch pilot had been on a motorbike, he'd have done a highside! 
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RE: Delta MD-88 Nose Gear Skidding

Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:35 pm

Quoting n901wa (Reply 5):
Becuse of the angle of the nose gear on the DC-9/MD88/90, if you turn the tiller too hard on it will go up on 1 nose wheel. With running up on 1 wheel and mostly side wall you get the skidding, and is ok. It will also happen on the DC-10 / MD-11.

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RE: Delta MD-88 Nose Gear Skidding

Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:25 pm

Seen it before, the MD's are notorious for this. The tire will definitely need to be checked when it lands. But at worse now the tire has a major flatspot, which may cause an annoying vibration.
 
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RE: Delta MD-88 Nose Gear Skidding

Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:17 am

Quoting Lemmy (Reply 4):
Is there any indication on the flightdeck that the nosewheels are skidding?

It is obvious via feedback in the tiller (Captain side only) and vibration; there's no light or anything like that.

Quoting Lemmy (Reply 4):
Any noise or vibration?

It is quite noticable.

Quoting n901wa (Reply 5):
Becuse of the angle of the nose gear on the DC-9/MD88/90, if you turn the tiller too hard on it will go up on 1 nose wheel. With running up on 1 wheel and mostly side wall you get the skidding, and is ok

The MD-80 and MD-90 series have VERY long wheelbases and very high tiller forces at large angles; they can be quite challenging aircraft to taxi in certain circumstances.
 
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RE: Delta MD-88 Nose Gear Skidding

Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:32 am

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RE: Delta MD-88 Nose Gear Skidding

Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:25 pm

Would there be any reason to abort takeoff altogether and go back to the gate for a maintenance check in this situation?

Seems like there would be potential for the nose gear tire(s) to blowout on takeoff roll.
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