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Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:00 pm

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What is the purpose of the structure (the little building) in between the actual terminal building and the aircraft? I've seen other pics of these types of structures but have wondered what they are for.
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:05 pm

We call them "nodes" They house a ground staff work station, an elevator, the Turnaround managers office and stairs to the ramp.

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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:06 pm

Its called the node and has a number of different functions.
It connects the static bit of the jetty to the moving part, the bottom part contains a office for the TRM with a computer phone etc. The node also has an area for for BA staff and there is a lift to take bags and buggy's and wheelchairs from the gate level to be loaded onto the aircraft.
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:24 pm

So these are essentially pillboxes on steroids? Makes the pillboxes at most of the gates at ATL look like closets, which they practically are.
 
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:37 pm

Looks to me like it reduces the required length of the moving portion of the jet bridge, which in turn increase the number of gates and provides for the airside road between the aircraft and the building. Note the aircraft gates in the upper left and lower right that are not immediately adjacent to the aircraft.
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:03 pm

Quoting srbmod (Reply 3):
So these are essentially pillboxes on steroids? Makes the pillboxes at most of the gates at ATL look like closets, which they practically are.

I guess you could say that haha
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:17 pm

I also presume that they allow for boarding by bus whilst another aircraft is on stand if it requires it?

Another question, why don't the windows face the aircraft you're due to fly on? Instead, they face the other jetbridge
 
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:15 pm

Quoting planejamie (Reply 6):
I also presume that they allow for boarding by bus whilst another aircraft is on stand if it requires it?

Nope. T5 has dedicated coaching gates, you would not board via a stand that has a pier on it.
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:34 pm

Cool, thanks guys. I even thought at one point it my have been something to do with customs. But there I go thinkin' too hard again.  
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:36 am

Quoting planejamie (Reply 6):
Another question, why don't the windows face the aircraft you're due to fly on? Instead, they face the other jetbridge

You mean the windows on the terminal building itself on the same floor as the jetbridge? From memory, the departure area is actually on the top level (which has windows all over) and you take stairs down to the jetbridge to board. But my memory may be betraying me.
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:08 pm

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 9):
You mean the windows on the terminal building itself on the same floor as the jetbridge?

I think he refers to the jetbridges them-self. They have windows on one side only, and they do not face the plane you're boarding, but only allow a view to the next parking stand.
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:21 pm

Quoting kl5147 (Reply 10):
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 9):
You mean the windows on the terminal building itself on the same floor as the jetbridge?

I think he refers to the jetbridges them-self. They have windows on one side only, and they do not face the plane you're boarding, but only allow a view to the next parking stand.

Ah I see now. This is something only enthusiasts care about, and we're not the target market.  
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:55 pm

Quoting planejamie (Reply 6):
Another question, why don't the windows face the aircraft you're due to fly on? Instead, they face the other jetbridge

Think about it where is the photo taken from? An aircraft!
Its probably to maximise advertising from aircraft taking off, taxing and landing
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they all point towards 27L/09R
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:45 pm

Quoting speedbird9 (Reply 12):
they all point towards 27L/09R
any thoughts why?

Very good point but considering that HSBC is plastered all over LHR, it seems a bit silly to let them face the departing/arriving aircraft remembering that most people don't pay any attention to the ads and can barely read them from that distance! The inside part of those from memory is also covered in HSBC adverts as well...
 
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:52 pm

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 11):
Ah I see now. This is something only enthusiasts care about, and we're not the target market.

Actually it's somewhere for HSBC to put hang their adverts. Helps pay the bills.   T5 satellites B and C are actually pretty good for visibility of aircraft and airport operation from the upper level gate area where you wait for flights. T5A somewhat less so.
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:00 pm

Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 8):
Cool, thanks guys. I even thought at one point it my have been something to do with customs. But there I go thinkin' too hard again.

That's not as outlandish as you suggest - it's exactly how DTW works.
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:41 pm

Quoting planejamie (Reply 13):

Quoting speedbird9 (Reply 12):
they all point towards 27L/09R
any thoughts why?

Very good point but considering that HSBC is plastered all over LHR, it seems a bit silly to let them face the departing/arriving aircraft remembering that most people don't pay any attention to the ads and can barely read them from that distance! The inside part of those from memory is also covered in HSBC adverts as well...

I suppose a large Multinational Company like HSBC, one of the largest companies in the world will have their reasons
and maybe like Jetlagged said:

Quoting Jetlagged (Reply 14):
Actually it's somewhere for HSBC to put hang their adverts. Helps pay the bills.   T5 satellites B and C are actually pretty good for visibility of aircraft and airport operation from the upper level gate area where you wait for flights. T5A somewhat less so.

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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:33 pm

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 7):
Quoting planejamie (Reply 6):
I also presume that they allow for boarding by bus whilst another aircraft is on stand if it requires it?

Nope. T5 has dedicated coaching gates, you would not board via a stand that has a pier on it.

Yes actually. Sometimes the jetty breaks and pax walk down the first part of the jetway to the node, then down the stairs in the node, across the ramp and up stairs to the aircraft.
 
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:02 pm

Quoting speedmarque (Reply 17):
Yes actually. Sometimes the jetty breaks and pax walk down the first part of the jetway to the node, then down the stairs in the node, across the ramp and up stairs to the aircraft.

I've had to do this at Terminal 2 at MAN, but not that the jetway broke was that the AF A318 couldn't park between two heavies on one of the stands so while the jetbridge could be used, we had to board the bus at the bottom of a similar style of "node".

I wish Rome would have the same sort of thing, when I flew (ironically BA) to FCO in Summer 2010, we arrived at the gate and the jetbridge lost power so couldn't move to the aircraft... we were stuck on a nearly full A321 for 30 minutes and whilst I have nothing against Italians, they're not the most polite people at times like this and were basically pushing to the front so it wasn't pleasant...
 
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:16 pm

Quoting speedmarque (Reply 17):
Sometimes the jetty breaks and pax walk down the first part of the jetway to the node, then down the stairs in the node, across the ramp and up stairs to the aircraft.

Does this happen a lot in Europe? It's quite rare in the States, so much so that there aren't really formal contingency plans to deal with it.
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:19 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 19):
Does this happen a lot in Europe? It's quite rare in the States, so much so that there aren't really formal contingency plans to deal with it.

Not much in my experience except in Rome, but that could be anything! Then again, in the States you board ERJs and similar via jetbridges (plus most airports seem to have them!), so I guess it's rare to use the stairs!
 
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:35 pm

I do not like the jetbridges there as they are not the ones made with glass like what you see in MUC or ZRH.
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:33 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 9):
From memory, the departure area is actually on the top level (which has windows all over) and you take stairs down to the jetbridge to board.

Escalators, not stairs, at least at the T5 gates I've used. In fact LHR T5 seems to have more than it's share of escalators. You always seem to be going up and down escalators (some very long) as you make your way through the terminal. I can't think of many other airport terminals where you also have to use an escalator to board a flight from each gate.
 
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:39 pm

Quoting planejamie (Reply 6):
Another question, why don't the windows face the aircraft you're due to fly on? Instead, they face the other jetbridge

As far as I can remember, there are no windows on the normal jetbridges at all, the windows are only available on 551, 558, 561 and 568 - that is, the four corner gates
 
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RE: Question About LHR T5C Jetways

Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:10 pm

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Looks to me like it reduces the required length of the moving portion of the jet bridge, which in turn increase the number of gates and provides for the airside road between the aircraft and the building.

We actually do the same thing here at DFW too. There is a fixed portion of the jetbridge that runs beneath skylink, and the swivels are all outboard of that. And beneath them in turn is the inner service road. Even now, I still get a little uncomfortable driving that road as it feels like a huge no-no, going beneath the peers like that (as it would be almost anywhere else).

Terminal D and some of the older portions of C & A where the skylink moves away from the gates do not have this, which often confuses the noobs further still...
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