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What Happens Before The A/c Heads For The Desert?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:12 am

My interest is sparked by the high-time LH 744s that have recently been headed to the desert for infinite rest. I'm sure it varies by airline, but what do airlines generally take from a/c that are headed for the scrapper? Obviously they are quite flyable to make the journey, so it seems mechanical parts and avionics are untouched. Are seats, IFE, galleys, overhead bins, safety cards, etc. generally removed for resale or reuse before the final flight takes place?
 
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RE: What Happens Before The A/c Heads For The Desert?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:25 am

I guess it depends on what the operator wants to keep.I have got a few airplane ready for the storage facility and all we did was paint our name off and made sure that all of the rotable parts the airplane came with were back on the aircraft before it left the rest was handled by the storage company before scrapping.
 
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RE: What Happens Before The A/c Heads For The Desert?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:03 am

Quoting bridge (Thread starter):

As the plane of LH won't be stored, everything is removed within the cabin and in the cargo hold. She is very very empty. Avionics of course will still be in as she needs to be airworthy and fulfill the requirements to fly within the North Atlantic airspace.
But cabin is removed, seats, galley, everything. Check the thread for some pictures:

DLH B744 D-ABVB Going West... (by BlueShamu330s Mar 13 2012 in Civil Aviation)

There are 2 pictures of an empty South African Airways 744, but I am sure it looks similar on the LH 744 one while on the flight to the scrapper.

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RE: What Happens Before The A/c Heads For The Desert?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:36 am

Different carriers, different scenarios...TWA flew their birds to Marana fully loaded, seats, harnesses, food carts...everything. The rotables would be removed, some flight control sufaces as needed, then the balance remains for the scrapper. Others would fly the airframe "green" with only minimum instruments as required by the "ferry Permit'. Basically a reposition flight and the last one at that.
 
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RE: What Happens Before The A/c Heads For The Desert?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:29 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 2):
Avionics of course will still be in as she needs to be airworthy and fulfill the requirements to fly within the North Atlantic airspace.

Once it lands somewhere in the desert, then would they take the avionics (well all the stuff in the cockpit) out for spare parts etc for other active aircraft currently in the LH fleet?
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RE: What Happens Before The A/c Heads For The Desert?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:54 pm

Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 4):
Once it lands somewhere in the desert, then would they take the avionics (well all the stuff in the cockpit) out for spare parts etc for other active aircraft currently in the LH fleet?

Well, that is a good question. To be honest, I don't have a clue. I try to get some information about that. It would make sense to keep them as they are still fine... No clue, sorry.

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RE: What Happens Before The A/c Heads For The Desert?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:13 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 5):
Well, that is a good question. To be honest, I don't have a clue. I try to get some information about that. It would make sense to keep them as they are still fine... No clue, sorry.

I would say yes as those are still company assets that are applicable to a fleet which the airline is operating so removing them as additional spares would increase the airlines spare pool. Remove 'em serviceable and put them into stock, or send them out for a quick bench test, and you're good to go. Even if the airline didn't want to keep the off units, they could be sold on the surplus market to other airlines that operate that aircraft type....ancillary revenue is a wonderful thing (and considering some of those things up in the flight deck or flight control surfaces go for A LOT of money, you might as well turn a buck! LOL)!!!!
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RE: What Happens Before The A/c Heads For The Desert?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:27 pm

When a bird goes to that great desert in the sky, which crew get picked to fly them?
Is the a pool of pilots putting their name down for a "last flight".
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RE: What Happens Before The A/c Heads For The Desert?

Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:50 am

When a bird goes to that great desert in the sky, which crew get picked to fly them?
Is the a pool of pilots putting their name down for a "last flight".

For the company I work for the management pilots take them not the union pilots.

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