User avatar
1337Delta764
Topic Author
Posts: 5031
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:02 am

Does AZA Have Deicing Equipment?

Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:43 am

I know it is a bit strange to talk about deicing in the Phoenix area, however, does AZA have deicing equipment? I know that PHX does, but what about AZA?
Yes, I wear Fairy Tale Pink IZOD shirts. I am a real man.
 
dlramp4life
Posts: 996
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:23 pm

RE: Does AZA Have Deicing Equipment?

Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:54 pm

Yes. G4 has a deicing cart. But it is a pain because it is a old cart and the airport is really strict about the deicing fluid. We would have to clean it up from the ramp after the flight pushed back.

It is not strange to ask about it in PHX, we do get cold here. The only airlines and vendors at PHX that have deicing equipment are WN, US, and Servisair. I think FedEx and UPS have some also.
SEA Ramp, wettest place on earth
 
wn676
Posts: 1293
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:33 am

RE: Does AZA Have Deicing Equipment?

Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:49 am

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 1):
It is not strange to ask about it in PHX, we do get cold here. The only airlines and vendors at PHX that have deicing equipment are WN, US, and Servisair. I think FedEx and UPS have some also.

It's still strange to see them actually fire up the equipment. I think the last time I saw our deicing truck out and doing the rounds was New Years Day 2011. We had deicing logs placed in the flight deck in all the aircraft doing first bank departures. Don't think anyone actually requested it though.
Tiny, unreadable text leaves ample room for interpretation.
 
PHX787
Posts: 7883
Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:46 pm

RE: Does AZA Have Deicing Equipment?

Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:12 pm

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 1):
Quoting wn676 (Reply 2):

Do we actually need deicing equipment here? I haven't seen temps here below 38 degrees F since I moved here
Follow me on twitter: www.twitter.com/phx787
 
dlramp4life
Posts: 996
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:23 pm

RE: Does AZA Have Deicing Equipment?

Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:04 pm

Well no but overnight it does get colder then 38 degrees somedays, I have worked outside in 25 degrees (pretty cold for PHX). Frost will form on the wings and could delay first flights in the morning while the plane sits on the tarmac and the frost will melt off...
SEA Ramp, wettest place on earth
 
AirframeAS
Posts: 9811
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:56 pm

RE: Does AZA Have Deicing Equipment?

Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:50 pm

Doesn't FLG have any deicing equipment up there in Northern Arizona? Are they ever used?
A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.
 
chrisair
Posts: 1830
Joined: Fri Sep 01, 2000 11:32 pm

RE: Does AZA Have Deicing Equipment?

Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:31 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 3):
Do we actually need deicing equipment here? I haven't seen temps here below 38 degrees F since I moved here

I was de-iced on an Alaska flight in Tucson last December. OAT was 40 something degrees with beautiful sunshine. There was a lot of frost on the wings, according to the flight deck, so the Delta ground folks sprayed us down. It's not uncommon to get frost here and in PHX in the winter.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 5):
Doesn't FLG have any deicing equipment up there in Northern Arizona? Are they ever used?

Considering it routinely snows in Flagstaff (elevation 7,000 feet) I'd say there's a very good probability of some de-icing equipment up there.
 
AirframeAS
Posts: 9811
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:56 pm

RE: Does AZA Have Deicing Equipment?

Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:34 am

Quoting chrisair (Reply 6):

It doesn't snow that much in FLG.
A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.
 
chrisair
Posts: 1830
Joined: Fri Sep 01, 2000 11:32 pm

RE: Does AZA Have Deicing Equipment?

Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:45 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 7):
It doesn't snow that much in FLG.

What are you talking about? Average annual snowfall at Flagstaff Airport is 100.3 inches. Higher than Anchorage, Denver, Pueblo, Portland ME, Detroit, Salt Lake City and International Falls, MN.

NWS Data through 2002: Top
 
chrisair
Posts: 1830
Joined: Fri Sep 01, 2000 11:32 pm

RE: Does AZA Have Deicing Equipment?

Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:57 am

Apparently this site doesn't like NWS links for some reason.

Here's the NWS data through 2002. If you want current stats, go to NWS Flagstaff's homepage and look it up there.

lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/online/ccd/snowfall.html
 
Maverick623
Posts: 4660
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:13 am

RE: Does AZA Have Deicing Equipment?

Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:41 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 3):

Do we actually need deicing equipment here? I haven't seen temps here below 38 degrees F since I moved here

I've seen it snow at the airport. The Day After the Super Bowl (shudder)... very very small flakes and they melted almost instantly, but it was snow. Lasted about 5 minutes.

The coldest I've seen it is in the upper 20s. I remember one morning none of the Mesa CRJs could take off until the sun came up and melted the frost off the wings (as they don't/didn't have a contract with anyone for deicing).
"PHX is Phoenix, PDX is the other city" -777Way
 
AirframeAS
Posts: 9811
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:56 pm

RE: Does AZA Have Deicing Equipment?

Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:32 am

Quoting chrisair (Reply 9):
Here's the NWS data through 2002.

You're giving me data from 2002 - 10 years ago. A lot has changed since then in FLG. The ski season on the Snowbowl isn't very long...at all!

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 10):
I've seen it snow at the airport. The Day After the Super Bowl (shudder)... very very small flakes and they melted almost instantly, but it was snow. Lasted about 5 minutes.

I saw that, too! I think this was in 2007. I was in Ahwatukee when it happened. I thought it was pretty cool!
A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos