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Is This Legal Or Not Unbelievable Thing To Do?

Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:46 am

This guy does something really risky and silly i know if you need to do any sort of work on an aircraft you have to jump through hoops but this guy does it like its an RC aircraft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Du51...g&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Is This Legal Or Not Unbelievable Thing To Do?

Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:18 am

Quoting JumboJim747 (Thread starter):
but this guy does it like its an RC aircraft

It's a real 747.


Compare with Great Video of 747 landing gear. (by famfflores Apr 17 2012 in Tech Ops)



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Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:29 am

Yes i know its real but this guy added the camera himself with cable ties seems weird to me
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Is This Legal Or Not Unbelievable Thing To Do?

Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:25 pm

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 2):

Yes i know its real but this guy added the camera himself with cable ties seems weird to me

Apparently, he cleared it with his company. There is an alternate landing gear extension/retraction on the 747 that allows the NLG to be left down when the MLG is retracted.

What surprises me is that it didn't damage the camera. The camera would get quite a cold soak at altitude. If it is not waterproof, on descent, the camera (and its circuitry) will remain extremely cold, which could very well lead to condensation forming on the interior circuitry where it is sheltered from the airflow, especially if they pass through a cloud.
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Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:12 pm

You have to get a modification approved by the engineering organization from that airline to ensure it does not impact the certification of the airplane. Adding equipment like a camera does not necessarily need a supplemental type certificate, but it would need some engineering to make it legal to be installed. Using a hand held camera and a zip tie is a bit crude, however if the camera is not using electrical power from the airplane, is not near the fuel system, and if it is outside the pressure vessel there aren't that many regulations.

Airlines do install sensors on airplanes for various reasons. It's not abnormal to have engineering install strain gauges or some other type of measuring equipment on the airplane to measure something. Boeing, Airbus and various suppliers work regularly with airlines to instrument airplanes as a part of their aging aircraft design work, although typically airplanes aren't flying regular revenue service in this configuration. I've seen a 737 with all sorts of strain gauges hooked up to the nose landing gear to measure various parameters to help improve reliability of components.
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Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:09 pm

As mentioned above, it just takes some engineering paper for most airlines to do that with the aircraft during a test flight as its in 'experimental' status. Revenue flights are a whole different story. I've been required to go the STC path just to put temp sensors in air ducts and connect them to a little 9 volt data logger if pax are on onboard inflight.
 
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:55 pm

Check out the end of this Delta commercial...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm6iyOq0v-Y#t=46s
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:10 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 3):
What surprises me is that it didn't damage the camera. The camera would get quite a cold soak at altitude. If it is not waterproof, on descent, the camera (and its circuitry) will remain extremely cold, which could very well lead to condensation forming on the interior circuitry where it is sheltered from the airflow, especially if they pass through a cloud.

It was probably a GoPro.

A nuclear blast wouldn't damage a GoPro. These cameras can resist anything. Seriously. I've dropped mine from a 10 floor building and the casing was barely scratched. Some guys attached these cameras to rockets or atmospheric balloons and flew them thousands of feet in the air, they came back to the ground with no parachute, and the thing was still intact.

One guy lost his camera on a beach, the thing stayed in the water for 6 months before being found by some random guy. Camera intact after a good wash.
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RE: Is This Legal Or Not Unbelievable Thing To Do?

Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:51 pm

Quoting AF1624 (Reply 7):

It was probably a GoPro

This video was shot with a Contour HD, still very sturdy.

Although I don't know if it would have survived this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU-KvtA20v8

"bumped my head on the door frame on exit unclasping the latch on the box. The camera popped out on exit at 12.500 and fell straight down onto the landing area at the DZ and was recovered by a fellow skydiver. It even caught our landings. Not one scratch on the body or lens. Still can't believe that I got it back and that it is totally fine. A buddy the same day who is one of our camera flyers had the same thing happen but with his SLR....not the same result. I'm definitely a gopro fan for life these little guys are bomb proof"
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RE: Is This Legal Or Not Unbelievable Thing To Do?

Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:56 pm

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 8):
Although I don't know if it would have survived this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU-KvtA20v8


I'm telling you that thing, even without its protective casing which was the case in that video, will survive anything. Seriously, they should build bomb shelters out of GoPros.

I have a Contour+ as well as I do motovlogs (vlogs on a motorbike) and having tested the two I can say two things :

The Contour is not as sturdy as the GoPro, not by a long shot, but it still is VERY sturdy.

The Contour's image quality is ridiculous compared to the GoPro's. But it is still okay.

That's a bit off-topic though, sorry OP.

[Edited 2012-09-21 08:57:55]
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