INFINITI329
Posts: 1733
Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:53 am

Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:08 am

Which foreign airlines have U.S. pilot bases?
 
roseflyer
Posts: 9606
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:34 am

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:50 am

Cathay Pacific has multiple US bases.
If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
 
thegoldenargosy
Posts: 488
Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:14 am

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:15 am

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 1):
Cathay Pacific has multiple US bases.

I believe Cathay has bases in SFO & LAX. One of my friends is based in SFO. She only works SFO-HKG.
 
User avatar
zeke
Posts: 9854
Joined: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:42 pm

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:49 am

Quoting thegoldenargosy (Reply 2):
She only works SFO-HKG.

Impossible.
We are addicted to our thoughts. We cannot change anything if we cannot change our thinking – Santosh Kalwar
 
azncsa4qf744er
Posts: 328
Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:04 pm

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:52 am

How is it impossible? US based CX crew (flight attendants) only work XXX-HKG. Unless something change that I'm not awear of. Also, doesn't OZ have a LAX based flight Attendants?
 
User avatar
zeke
Posts: 9854
Joined: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:42 pm

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:31 am

Quoting azncsa4qf744er (Reply 4):
How is it impossible?

Because when they are on standby, they can be sent anywhere in the US or Canada to operate a flight, e.g. YVR, YYZ, JFK, ORD, or LAX. They will also operate regional flights out of HKG. I just had a look at the 777 pilots based in North America, they all have at least one regional flight out of HKG (e.g. PER, PVG, MNL. SIN) on their roster. Line checks and training are mainly done out of HKG, the simulators are based in HKG and SIN as well.

Quoting azncsa4qf744er (Reply 4):
US based CX crew (flight attendants) only work XXX-HKG.

That is not true either. They also have standby days, and technically they can get called out to operate any route, this is however less likely for cabin crew as every aircraft is normally dispatched with more than the legal minimum for the flight, they can afford for 1 or 2 to go sick, pull crew from other flights etc. Cabin crew normally have an additional days layover, so effectively you always have spares of them down route.

I know some of the NA based crew also can get sent to SEA for delivery flights.
We are addicted to our thoughts. We cannot change anything if we cannot change our thinking – Santosh Kalwar
 
blueflyer
Posts: 3633
Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:17 am

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:43 am

JAL used to have a base in HNL but it was closed during its bankruptcy re-organization.

Korean has a "base" in LAX, but my understanding is, it is an official domicile to/from which foreign (read non-Korean) pilots are flown at company expense, all rosters begin and end in SEL.

I believe LAX and SFO are the only bases for Cathay on the passenger side, with cargo bases at ANC, CHI and NYC too.

I have a vague memory of Air France having a base in MIA for its narrowbody flights to French territories in the Caribbeans.

Also, Aer Lingus has a cabin crew base in WAS for local hires only. It is to be closed as UA is ending their partnership on the IAD-MAD (or is it BCN?) flight.
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has no clothes.
 
flymia
Posts: 6808
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2001 6:33 am

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:12 am

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 6):

Even though the AF A320 down in the Caribbean starts and end it's rotation of flights every day in MIA I am 98% sure they are not based in MIA. I also think the pilots for those flights and maybe the FAs are on a month or two rotation from France. IB used to have a a full base in MIA when they had their mini hub in MIA with DC-9s and then the A319s based in MIA.
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
 
jfk777
Posts: 5841
Joined: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:23 am

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:23 am

Quoting flymia (Reply 7):
IB used to have a a full base in MIA when they had their mini hub in MIA with DC-9s and then the A319s based in MIA.

9/11 killed the IB hub in Miami. Before 9/11 passengers from Madrid going to Central America were put in an in transit lounge before their flight to the final destination. After 9/11 those passengers had to clear customs in Miami which proved to be a disaster for IB. Connections on the short haul flights became delayed all the time, plus the visa requirements for passengers.
 
User avatar
RWA380
Posts: 4451
Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:51 am

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:42 am

Doesn't NZ or QF have a base at LAX? IIRC, both of these carriers had HNL based crews back in the day, when HNL was a crossroads for Pacific travel. Fond memories of spotting at KHNL when HNL was still a crossroads of the Pacific.
Next Flights: PDX-HNL-OGG-LIH-PDX On AS, WP & HA
 
AV8AJET
Posts: 1093
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:10 am

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:03 pm

Cathy has numerous US Cargo bases:

Freighter:
ANC
LAX
ORD
JFK
ATL
"To fly or not to fly there is no question!"
 
lhcvg
Posts: 1255
Joined: Mon May 25, 2009 2:53 pm

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:22 pm

Quoting flymia (Reply 7):
Even though the AF A320 down in the Caribbean starts and end it's rotation of flights every day in MIA I am 98% sure they are not based in MIA. I also think the pilots for those flights and maybe the FAs are on a month or two rotation from France. IB used to have a a full base in MIA when they had their mini hub in MIA with DC-9s and then the A319s based in MIA.

That's interesting - I never thought about how they did their rotations. I presume, like a U.S. carrier, AF narrowbody flight crew are a different group from l/h international crews? If so, that would make a lot of sense to keep them around for a while rather than shuttling back to France all the time.
 
usflyguy
Posts: 1535
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:29 am

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:40 pm

Quoting LHCVG (Reply 11):
I presume, like a U.S. carrier, AF narrowbody flight crew are a different group from l/h international crews?

UA doesn't have separate domestic /international bases and AA is dropping the separation. I'm not sure about DL, but I think they're all combined as well.
My post is my ideas and my opinions only, I do not represent the ideas or opinions of anyone else or company.
 
roseflyer
Posts: 9606
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:34 am

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:57 pm

Quoting LHCVG (Reply 11):

That's interesting - I never thought about how they did their rotations. I presume, like a U.S. carrier, AF narrowbody flight crew are a different group from l/h international crews? If so, that would make a lot of sense to keep them around for a while rather than shuttling back to France all the time.

Some airlines do shuttle pilots but have local flight attendants. Delta has 2 week trips to Asia to operate its narrowbody routes from Japan. I'm not sure how things have changed now that they have 767s to NRT and theoretically can route the crews via PDX & SFO.
If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
 
lhcvg
Posts: 1255
Joined: Mon May 25, 2009 2:53 pm

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:05 pm

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 12):
UA doesn't have separate domestic /international bases and AA is dropping the separation. I'm not sure about DL, but I think they're all combined as well.

I was referring to them falling in different bid lines such that they will basically never cross over - A320/737, A330/777, etc.

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 13):
Some airlines do shuttle pilots but have local flight attendants. Delta has 2 week trips to Asia to operate its narrowbody routes from Japan. I'm not sure how things have changed now that they have 767s to NRT and theoretically can route the crews via PDX & SFO.

That's another way to do it. Especially with the time difference you have to use those longer trips I'd think.
 
Jetmarc
Posts: 432
Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:54 am

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:08 pm

My friend is a SFO based US F/A for CX and he said he only flies SFO-HKG only as well. He flies 4 trips a month, just HKG on the B744.
"Sucka, I'm gonna send you out on Knuckle Airlines. Fist Class!!" ~ Mr. T
 
User avatar
zeke
Posts: 9854
Joined: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:42 pm

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:24 pm

Quoting jetMarc (Reply 15):
My friend is a SFO based US F/A for CX and he said he only flies SFO-HKG only as well. He flies 4 trips a month, just HKG on the B744.

It is less likely that SFO cabin crew would operate other flights, they are trained on all types, and there are enough spare cabin crew down route. Unlike cockpit crew, who only fly one type, and will be restored to fly regional flights and simulators regularly. They also have to cover for other pilots on the the same type is they should become sick etc.

There is contractual arrangement that would prevent CX from using these crew regionally, and it does occasionally happen when there is significant Wx disruptions (ege Typhoon). Cabin crew generally get 24+ hrs more than legally required rest down route.
We are addicted to our thoughts. We cannot change anything if we cannot change our thinking – Santosh Kalwar
 
nws2002
Posts: 718
Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:04 pm

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:59 am

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 12):
UA doesn't have separate domestic /international bases

former CO flight attendants are still split between domestic/international
 
azncsa4qf744er
Posts: 328
Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:04 pm

RE: Foreign Carrier W/ US Bases

Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:58 am

Quoting jetMarc (Reply 15):

CX US based FAs fly one route round trip up to four trips a month. They do not fly any other route out of HKG.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 22 guests