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Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:39 pm

If anyone can identify these green buttons on the 319 pedestal (right above the throttle quadrant, inside the red box) I only seem to see them on U2 319.. What are the use and purpose of these buttons?

 
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:45 pm

Indicates that the cabin is secure for either take off or landing. It's actually a flap that is flipped from one side to the other.

[Edited 2013-02-28 10:46:00]
 
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:48 pm

Those are indicator lights, not switches.

That terminology is one of my pet peeves. The only "buttons" on a Flight Deck are on the pilots' shirts. There are Switches, Selectors and Keys on the flight deck.

Are those indicator lights something that is a catalog option on Airbus's, or was it a custom or retrofit installation for EasyJet only?
 
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:55 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 2):
Those are indicator lights, not switches.

That terminology is one of my pet peeves. The only "buttons" on a Flight Deck are on the pilots' shirts. There are Switches, Selectors and Keys on the flight deck.

Are those indicator lights something that is a catalog option on Airbus's, or was it a custom or retrofit installation for EasyJet only?

Sorry to correct you,

No lights. It's just a plastic slide mechanism indicating if the cabin is secure for landing or not  

As far as I have seen cockpits in Europe I've only seen easyjet use it  .
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:01 pm

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 3):
No lights. It's just a plastic slide mechanism indicating if the cabin is secure for landing or not

So the pilots just slide something back and forth to remind themselves which condition they are in? (Ready for movement, or not?).
 
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:08 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 4):
So the pilots just slide something back and forth to remind themselves which condition they are in? (Ready for movement, or not?).

Yes. When the call is made from the cabin to inform the flight deck that the cabin is secured for either take off or landing, the slide is flipped over to the relevant side.
 
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:15 pm

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 3):
As far as I have seen cockpits in Europe I've only seen easyjet use it

BA has a very similar arrangement, but it is out in the fwd galley and moved by the cabin crew.
The pilots can see it on the video screen that is there for cockpit entry control.
 
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:56 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 2):
That terminology is one of my pet peeves. The only "buttons" on a Flight Deck are on the pilots' shirts. There are Switches, Selectors and Keys on the flight deck.

Not on an Airbus. The FCOM refers to numerous "pushbuttons" on the flight deck.

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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:46 pm

Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 5):
Yes. When the call is made from the cabin to inform the flight deck that the cabin is secured for either take off or landing, the slide is flipped over to the relevant side.

British people has too good memory to remember this. I suppose this is a human performance tool, or visual management, however you wanna call it.
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:44 am

Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 5):
Yes. When the call is made from the cabin to inform the flight deck that the cabin is secured for either take off or landing, the slide is flipped over to the relevant side.

Seems like a pretty strange feature. Doesn't seem entirely necessary.
 
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:58 am

Quoting flight152 (Reply 9):
Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 5):
Yes. When the call is made from the cabin to inform the flight deck that the cabin is secured for either take off or landing, the slide is flipped over to the relevant side.

Seems like a pretty strange feature. Doesn't seem entirely necessary.

There are a LOT of things to keep track of. Anything that increases situational awareness and decreases pilot workload, especially with such a simple feature, should be encouraged.

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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:10 am

Is a button not any small knob used to activate an electrical current?
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:56 am

Many airlines use a similar indicator to show the autoland CAT status of the aircraft. It will be set by maintenance and will indicate if the aircraft has been downgraded in it´s autoland performance, e.g. because of a deferred defect.

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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:05 am

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 2):
That terminology is one of my pet peeves. The only "buttons" on a Flight Deck are on the pilots' shirts.

Funny what people get worked up about.


That is truly hilarious !
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:29 pm

While on the terminology bandwagon, my pet peeve is when people are calling it 'finals' instead of 'final'.
There is only one final approach.

Or when they write hangers when they mean hangars.

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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:16 pm

My pet peeve is other peoples pet peeves..
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:59 pm

Quoting flight152 (Reply 9):
Seems like a pretty strange feature. Doesn't seem entirely necessary.

Normally when one sees things like this, or strange SOPs unique to one airline, it is a result of an occurrence within that airline. Likely U2 had an incident where the aircraft took off or landed without the cabin being prepared.
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:39 pm

Quoting SAAFNAV (Reply 14):

While on the terminology bandwagon, my pet peeve is when people are calling it 'finals' instead of 'final'.
There is only one final approach.

Incredibly pointless gripe, as you know exactly what someone means when they say "finals". It's also the official phraseology of the RAF so it's not incorrect. It actually originated as a shorthand for "miles final", e.g instead of saying "6 miles final" or whatever, you can just say "6 finals". That's where it's from anyway, not that anyone says it like that anymore.

So, like much phraseology in Aviation, it came about to a reason from a long time ago that isn't massively relevant now, but there's no harm in it.

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 2):
The only "buttons" on a Flight Deck are on the pilots' shirts. There are Switches, Selectors and Keys on the flight deck.

Airbus disagrees.
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:16 am

Oh the irony is too great!

The amount of posts that I have seen where people scream and shout about petty differences doesn't really gel with 'incredibly pointless gripe'.

I didn't really say that it keeps me up at night, or that I would interrupt someone to point it out to him.

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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:16 pm

Why does the FO have 2 stripes, and not 3?
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:21 am

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 19):
Why does the FO have 2 stripes, and not 3?

My guess is he is a Junior F/O or Second Officer (whatever the rank is called at EasyJet). Since EasyJet has no long hauls I assume this means he is in final stages of training.
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:57 am

Quoting SAAFNAV (Reply 18):
Oh the irony is too great!

Do you know what irony means?

Quoting SAAFNAV (Reply 18):
I didn't really say that it keeps me up at night, or that I would interrupt someone to point it out to him.

No, but you called it a peeve. So you said it peeves you off, or causes you annoyance. Explaining why it shouldn't isn't "ironic", and certainly doesn't constitute "screaming and shouting".

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 19):
Why does the FO have 2 stripes, and not 3?

Because he's still on FlexiCrew's cadet contract and is therefore still a cadet pilot. They're starting to get permenant contracts now but it's a bit hit and miss...
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RE: Easyjet 319: Weird Buttons

Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:35 am

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 2):
Those are indicator lights, not switches.

ever get into an argument about someone who says korry switch?

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