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ATR-72-600 Freighter?

Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:06 am

Hello All:

I am curious as to if its possible for ATR to offer the ATR-72-600 as a freighter? Would this A/C make for a better freighter vs the smaller ATR-42 and ATR-72-200 do to its longer size?
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RE: ATR-72-600 Freighter?

Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:24 am

The ATR 72-600 has the same fuselage length as the 72-200/500. The only difference the 72-600 has over previous versions is a higher MTOW and a glass cockpit. But to answer your question, I'm sure ATR does offer a freighter version. Not sure why one would want to buy a 600 just for cargo as there are many 200's/500's on the market for far less.
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RE: ATR-72-600 Freighter?

Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:25 am

Too small to be cost effective...

A400M based freighter? maybe.
 
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RE: ATR-72-600 Freighter?

Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:42 am

Quoting SCAT15F (Reply 2):

Too small to be cost effective...

A400M based freighter? maybe.

Really? Have you told that to FedEx Feeder carriers, which fly a fleet of Cessna 206 and ATR-42 aircraft?
Both those birds are smaller than the ATR-72 in question in this discussion...

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 1):
The only difference the 72-600 has over previous versions is a higher MTOW

I think that higher weight might just make the plane an attractive option. Attractive enough to buy new-build freighters? I don't know.
 
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RE: ATR-72-600 Freighter?

Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:04 am

When an ATR72-200 or -500 can be freighter converted at a cheaper rate.....why go in for a -600 freighter.
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RE: ATR-72-600 Freighter?

Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:57 am

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 3):
Have you told that to FedEx Feeder carriers, which fly a fleet of Cessna 206

I think you mean 208 Caravans, not Cessna 206 ....


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RE: ATR-72-600 Freighter?

Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:23 pm

Quoting SCAT15F (Reply 2):
Too small to be cost effective...

Not in certain parts of the world, such as this ATR-72-200 operating to many remote airports in Canada's arctic region.


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RE: ATR-72-600 Freighter?

Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:54 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 4):
When an ATR72-200 or -500 can be freighter converted at a cheaper rate.....why go in for a -600 freighter.

I was always thought the -600 had a longer fuselage vs the older/ shorter -200s and -500s..

Quoting SCAT15F (Reply 2):
A400M based freighter? maybe.

Could a cargo carrier use a CASA 295 as a freighter?
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RE: ATR-72-600 Freighter?

Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:36 am

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 7):
I was always thought the -600 had a longer fuselage vs the older/ shorter -200s and -500s..

Nope, same fuselage

Quoting SCAT15F (Reply 2):
A400M based freighter? maybe.

Waaaayyyy to expensive to buy and operate.
 
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RE: ATR-72-600 Freighter?

Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:47 am

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 1):
Not sure why one would want to buy a 600 just for cargo as there are many 200's/500's on the market for far less.

Exactly. While there is nothing really in the way of making a -600 freighter, there is a large used market for the older versions which make good freighter candidates, not absolutely no hurry for ATR to offer a -600F for the time being.

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 7):
Could a cargo carrier use a CASA 295 as a freighter?

Nothing against that either, but the problem is that it is designed as a military cargo aircraft and therefore carries a lot of structural weight unneeded for civil ops (heavy landing gear for rough field ops, cargo ramp, etc). Unless you really need the cargo bay volume or the loading ramp, there is no reason for a civil operator to use it, and AFAIK no-one does. Same goes for its smaller brother the CN-235 (which did manage to have a very short life as an airliner however). But IIRC there are some civilian-use C-212 out there.
 
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RE: ATR-72-600 Freighter?

Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:07 pm

Lots of C206's flown up here on cargo runs...just not for FedEx.

Id have the agree with HAWK21 that there are plenty of low time 200 and 500's floating around that can be converted to prevent a current push for -600 freighters.

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