jetblueguy22
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Runway Phraseology Around The World

Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:02 pm

I was watching a show called "Concorde: Anatomy of a Disaster" and they mentioned the runways at CDG and called on of the runways "Two Six Romeo", now I have never heard it stated that way. I've only heard "One Seven Right" etc. I always thought much of the phraseology around the world was fairly standard, but not exactly the same. Was this a case of a show trying to act knowledgable and pilot like? Or is this standard in France or other parts of the world?
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RE: Runway Phraseology Around The World

Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:42 pm

You are right.
Phraseology is "Two Six Right" / Zero Eight Left...
The "Romeo"... could introduce a misunderstanding as these designators are reserved for taxiways and turnoffs.
In French, it's the number as a whole : Two six Right becomes "Vingt-six Droite".
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RE: Runway Phraseology Around The World

Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:24 pm

Quoting Pihero (Reply 1):
The "Romeo"... could introduce a misunderstanding as these designators are reserved for taxiways and turnoffs.
In French, it's the number as a whole : Two six Right becomes "Vingt-six Droite".

That's what I was thinking as well. I know it would have thrown me off if I had heard "Two Six Romeo." I appreciate your response! It was confusing me in the show. My roommate is ATC and he said he had never heard it before either.
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RE: Runway Phraseology Around The World

Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:24 pm

Consider it just another "faux pas" that TV shows are known for. Flew into CDG 100s of times and never heard that.
 
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RE: Runway Phraseology Around The World

Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:16 pm

Quoting Pihero (Reply 1):

You are right.
Phraseology is "Two Six Right" / Zero Eight Left...
The "Romeo"... could introduce a misunderstanding as these designators are reserved for taxiways and turnoffs.
In French, it's the number as a whole : Two six Right becomes "Vingt-six Droite".

Here in the states, most often I've heard them leave out the ZERO as well. Thus, 07L becomes "Seven Left".
 
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RE: Runway Phraseology Around The World

Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:00 pm

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 4):

That's the correct way of doing it in the US (FAA).
 
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RE: Runway Phraseology Around The World

Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:44 pm

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 4):
Quoting Reply 5):

I think the rest of the world pronounces the zero. If u notice, US runways are not painted with the zero before, however the rest of the world do.
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RE: Runway Phraseology Around The World

Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:36 pm

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 6):
I think the rest of the world pronounces the zero. If u notice, US runways are not painted with the zero before, however the rest of the world do.

I never noticed the zero was present in other places! Learn something new every day!
 
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RE: Runway Phraseology Around The World

Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:10 am

Here they say the leading zeros in a callsign as well, and it sounds awkward. AC 1 is "Air Canada zero zero one".
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RE: Runway Phraseology Around The World

Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:35 am

Speaking of runway phraseology, I heard a controller use "position and hold" last week at FRG...
 
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RE: Runway Phraseology Around The World

Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:08 pm

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 6):

I think the rest of the world pronounces the zero. If u notice, US runways are not painted with the zero before, however the rest of the world do.

That is only partly true...Civilian airports omit the zero, however military airfields now include the zero on their runways. However, the zero is still omitted in the phraseology.

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 9):
Speaking of runway phraseology, I heard a controller use "position and hold" last week at FRG...

There is always one cantankerous holdout at every facility when new rules come down the hole.
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RE: Runway Phraseology Around The World

Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:56 pm

Quoting NBGSkyGod (Reply 10):
There is always one cantankerous holdout at every facility when new rules come down the hole.



I always wanted to be that guy, but since I love change it never came to pass other than calling the new United "Continental" when it was a CO airplane! 
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RE: Runway Phraseology Around The World

Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:10 pm

Quoting NBGSkyGod (Reply 10):
There is always one cantankerous holdout at every facility when new rules come down the hole.
Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 11):
I always wanted to be that guy, but since I love change it never came to pass other than calling the new United "Continental" when it was a CO airplane!

I replaced our cantankerous old guy a few years ago...I have been trying to fill his very large shoes ever since.
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