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Mmel Cockpit Item

Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:24 am

On a recent 5:30am short flight on and MD90 we were informed of a delay due to the need to await for equipment that was required in the cockpit. About half of the passengers exited the aircraft after which the pilot stated the equipment arrived and we'd be departing on time. What required equipment for the cockpit would be missing or inoperable on the aircraft's first flight that day that would also be so provided/installed so quickly?
 
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RE: Mmel Cockpit Item

Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:32 am

The co-pilot?










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RE: Mmel Cockpit Item

Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:59 am

It could be anything. Required equipment that comes to mind:

First aid kit
Headset
Fire extinguisher
Crash axe
Walkaround O2 bottle/mask

There are others.
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RE: Mmel Cockpit Item

Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:58 pm

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 2):
There are others.

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RE: Mmel Cockpit Item

Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:27 pm

Based on my experience the most common item would be the oxygen is below the serviceable limit and it was not caught until the pilot's predeparture checks. There are many different things that could cause such a delay as speculated earlier, but I know oxygen is a common one.

However it could be one of hundreds of different things. I was once on a 757 that had a weather related diversion to SJC due to SFO fog and we were stuck on the ground for over an hour because we "had a mechanical problem that needed to be addressed". The pilots refused to tell the passengers what the problem was. It turned out to be a loose latch on the service door below the first class lavatory sink. It took over an hour because the contract Southwest Airlines mechanic (United had no maintenance staff in SJC) was slow to bring over his roll of duct tape due. But rules are rules and you can't depart with an open logbook item even if it is for a lavatory sink and a 10 minute flight. In reality they never would have written up the latch if they thought we might be diverting to SJC.

[Edited 2013-07-08 16:27:56]
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RE: Mmel Cockpit Item

Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:51 pm

Quoting roseflyer (Reply 4):

Based on my experience the most common item would be the oxygen is below the serviceable limit and it was not caught until the pilot's predeparture checks.

A blown light globe as the most common cockpit defect I have observed.
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RE: Mmel Cockpit Item

Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:52 pm

There is absolutely no way any of us could possibly know the answer unless we were there as there are a huge number of possibilities.

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RE: Mmel Cockpit Item

Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:02 am

Quoting zeke (Reply 5):
Quoting roseflyer (Reply 4):

Based on my experience the most common item would be the oxygen is below the serviceable limit and it was not caught until the pilot's predeparture checks.

A blown light globe as the most common cockpit defect I have observed.

Every airline is different. I'll take a guess at your top reason for a non-weather/ATC delay/airport operations delay. Is it replacing a seat cushion or a stowbin latch/hinge?

[Edited 2013-07-08 17:06:40]
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