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JFK Jr. Thoughts?

Fri Jul 07, 2000 9:18 am

I hear the NTSB says it was "visual disorientation (sp?)" and that he losed control. What do u guys think??? i think it is a bunch of talk to get around saying it was JFK jr.'s fault. I think that he was not qualified for the flight and tried to do more than he was able to. well, what do u guys think about it??
-Jason
 
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RE: JFK Jr. Thoughts?

Fri Jul 07, 2000 12:46 pm

They did say it was pilot error, just not in those words.
 
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Guess What I Heard On The Radio About It?

Fri Jul 07, 2000 1:42 pm

This asshole on national radio was talking about it tonight. He was on the program (not a caller) (don't know the name of it, sorry). He kept saying that it was the women in the back that caused him to ditch in the ocean. He was saying that since they just went to the mall, they were in the back pulling out dresses, and rambling on about it, and that JFK jr. couldn't take it anymore and wanted peace and ditched the plane. I think that was a load of %#&!. He pretty much ended it saying "if they would have shut up back there, that he would still be alive today". A lot of people kept calling in pretty much telling him he's full of it. I think he was just sexist, or gay. I can't believe they let this guy go on and on about it on the radio. Supposedly he was a pilot also, and other pilots called in, and this guy kept telling them that they were wrong and weren't real pilots. Anyways, I'll stop here, but it really made me mad about what he was saying.
 
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RE: Guess What I Heard On The Radio About It?

Sat Jul 08, 2000 2:14 am

Pedro757, yes they did, but didnt they make it sound like it wasnt his fault that he was "visually disoriented(sp??)" or was it just me?
Dazed767, that was pretty stupid on his part. Was he fired?
-Jason
 
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RE: Guess What I Heard On The Radio About It?

Sat Jul 08, 2000 9:20 am

Jr. committed a lot of errors...
First of all, if a flight instructor asked me if I wanted him/her to come along, I'd at least listen to his/her reasoning. And I'd probably spring for it, God knows Jr. had enough money to put the guy up overnight or for the weekend.
Second, he could have used his radio to call for help and he had other equipment he could have used for positioning and/or guidance. He had some instrument training.
I'm not saying I would never make the same mistakes... in fact I could see myself doing the same thing, if I was tired after a full day's work, I had to drop someone else off and then travel again before I got to where I was going, and I was frustrated because I couldn't see.
May they RIP.
Up, up and away!
 
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RE: JFK Jr. Thoughts?

Sat Jul 08, 2000 10:38 am

JFK JR. had no business flying that aircraft that night. In typical Kennedy fashion though he did what he wanted.

There is no curse on the Kennedy family. They consistently make brutal decisions and figure that their money will get them out of any hole they dig for themselves.

What is up with the love affair with the Kennedy's. They are one of America's dirtiest political families and seem to be teflon coated. Most of their wealth was unlawfully obtained and Joe Kennedy was a scumbag. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree does it ?

The junk that was written in the papers and heard on the radio is just another example of the mass media and their unwillingness to portray the Kennedys for what they are.... rich , spoiled brats that continually find exotic ways to kill themselves.

The only sad part about this whole airplane crash is that two " innocent " people also died.


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RE: JFK Jr. Thoughts?

Mon Jul 10, 2000 2:38 am

copper1 i agree 100%. That is the best way to put it.
-Jason
 
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RE: JFK Jr. Thoughts?

Mon Jul 10, 2000 3:23 pm

The correct term is spatial disorientation, and that is the fault of the pilot. Spatial disorientation is when what the pilot see's outside the window doesn't match with what he thinks he see's in his head. There is no problem with flying at night, you just have to know what your doing and be extra careful. Since his Saratoga was loaded with all the bells and whistles, he could have turned on the autopilot at the first sign of problems and prevented the whole accident.

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