bobMD11
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Long Haul Flights In Fs

Wed Feb 21, 2001 11:19 pm

how do u make your long haul flights in FS2k?

from where to where?
which aircraft do you use?
do you watch the aircraft just all the flight long or do u set simulation rate higher??

just please let me know how you do your long haul flights in Fsim.
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Thu Feb 22, 2001 12:26 am

Hi i do many Longhaul flights from London Heathrow and Gatwick to Northern USA, Asia, Australasia, Africa, middle east, South America and Canada. So just about everywhere! I fly for a VA called BritishAirways Virtual. I mostly use 777-236's, 747-236/436 and 767-336ER. I realy enjoy using the FSnavigator for FS2000 as it is the easiest thing to use and realy reliable. I have logged over 1,300 hours on British Airways Virtual mostly doing longhaul flying. Depending on the length of the flight and the amount of time i have to fly i normaly fly at 4X speed over the Atlantic then down to normal over the land. This makes the flight a bit quicker and more interesting. As 6 hours seeing nothing but ocean is a bit boreing! Anyway i hope this helps  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Thu Feb 22, 2001 2:04 pm

I have PSS 747 and it has an FMC. Thus, I just plug in all the waypoints and let the FMC fly it!
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Thu Feb 22, 2001 3:19 pm

I strongly disagree with speeding up the sim-rate. Its just way to unrealistic. I have never ever done that. But thats me, you may differ. I have done lots of long haul flights. LAX-SYD, LAX-FRA, ORD-LHR, LAX-Tokyo, you name it. The best thing to do on a really long haul flight, (over 10 hrs.) is to do a night flight. Take off late at night if you want, it all depends on how late or early you sleep. After you have taken off, stay with it until you have reached your final cruising altitude, and make sure the planes navigation system, whichever you use, (I use the FMC with-PSS777) is set. Make sure the plane is heading ok, Plan your route. (When I have alot of time (Rarely  Sad) I spend time to make a nice flightplan including plane, appx. crusing altitude and est. speed, flight depart/arrival info, etc...)Then once everything looks good, altitude good, speed good, navigation, set. Sleep or something. Just make sure you wake up before you need to descend.

On flights like 6 hrs., A good thing to do is take off in the morning or afternoon. Then you can watch the flight in progress whenver you want or can. This way youlll be able to land at around 6 or 7PM-or earlier, depending on when you start, or what your flight is. Hope these tips help  Smile.
 
cba
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Thu Feb 22, 2001 3:53 pm

Download FSNavigator from http://www.flightsim.com. This is the best program out there. First I plan my flight in FSNavigator. It even includes SIDs/STARs. I then takeoff, and engage FSNavigator (it links directly to FS98/2000 autopilot). It then flies the flight for me. It can also fly the approach, and land the plane. It calculates proper descent rate, and flies the STAR/ILS perfectly. You may want to flare manually though. After I am at cruising altitude, I turn the simulation rate up to 4X. I turn it back to normal once I am ready to descend.
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Fri Feb 23, 2001 4:03 am

I don mostly long haul flights in FS. A lot of them are either cross trans-US, trans-pacific, or trans-atlantic in 747s.
 
Pacific
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Fri Feb 23, 2001 10:25 am

I usually choose major cities. Whenever I get a new plane, I usually try to take it to the limit. I have quite a few longhaulers.

CDFAIR B744
Air Scandinavia A340-8000
Continental B777-200 (LRX? It can stay in the air for more than 21 hours)
SR MD11
BAE 146 (The designer mucked up the fuel consumption rate)

I've done
JFK-HKG several times
HKG-LHR
Wellington-LHR
Wellington-Helsinki
LHR-JFK
HKG-Geneva

I always set the rate to 4X once I start climbing. It takes several sessions of flight simming to complete a longhaul. I just save and resume later.

Cba, I still haven't worked out how to use the FS Navigator auto fly flightplan. Can you tell me how to do it?

Pacific
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Fri Feb 23, 2001 10:57 am

For long haul flights I use FSN Navigator 3.0. I just program in all the waypoints, speed etc, take off, fly to cruise altitude, turn the auto pilot on, set the speed to 4x and go watch tv. Watching the screen for 9 hours is nuts, I have better things to do with my life. I check the sim regularly and when its time to decend i do it manualy.I get my enjoyment form arriving before the scheduale and burining the least fuel.
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Feb 24, 2001 5:39 am

I just flew Heathrow - Sydney in a Bae Comet 4, flew all 25 hours by hand, real time.

t.y
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Feb 24, 2001 8:44 am

I typically would fly SFO-TPE.

Usually use an EVA 744 or CI 744.

The last flight that I completed was a 15.5 hour marathon from EWR to HKG using a CO 777.

Of course I change the sim rate to 4x.
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Feb 24, 2001 8:57 am

Where can I get good aircraft and a converter for FS2k? I have been looking in all the places where I got them for FS98 but I just can't seem to find many. And absolutely no luck with the converter, if it's still called that.

Thanks in advance,
Jake.
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Feb 24, 2001 9:11 am

I've done some JFK-Heathrow flights. I'm thinking of doing an ultra long-range Chicago-Hong Kong flight too. I use the PSS 747 and 777. I love the FMC on those planes.
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Feb 24, 2001 9:39 am

Some free download 747's dont include GPS  Sad which makes it hard to fly!
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Feb 24, 2001 11:25 pm

My longest is Stockholm-Darwin.
I used an A340-500 for this 15 hours flight.
What I didn't use was the sim rate. So it took me almost a whole day to make this flight.

Simon Larsson
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Cleco
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sun Feb 25, 2001 2:44 am

Donder,
Download flight zip 2000 from flightsim.com. when you set it up go to the menu which says aircraft. Change the panel to the one that came with the 777-300. This will allow you to use GPS.

Jake
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Tue Feb 27, 2001 9:34 am

I think the longest flight ive made so far was last week in a Syrianair 747sp from Tel Aviv-Amsterdam (I know syrian wouldn't fly out of there but I ELAL doesn't use SPs, my fav plane, and Damascus sucks  Smile ) in Fs2k. Im not sure if Tel-Aviv-Schipol is farther than the JFK-LHR I flew saturday in a Pan Am SP, i will have to check that out.
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Tue Feb 27, 2001 1:59 pm

JFK-HKG! Hah, that's nothing compared to my longest. I flew IAH-HKG in a CO 777-200ER. 16 hours.

Pacific:

If you have FS98, you need to download the FS98 patch for it to work. I used to have the same problem, the auto flightplan wouldn't work. Now I downloaded the patch and it does.
 
Pacific
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RE: Cba

Wed Feb 28, 2001 2:28 pm

Thanks!
Some patch files came with the FS Converter but is the one I need "Flight Simulator 98 Patch Set 1.0"?

Pacific
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Wed Feb 28, 2001 2:39 pm

I used to do alot of flights JFK-SVO on a UAL 777-222.
I didnt speed up the sim rate. It usualy took around 9 hours.
Pershoyu Spravoyu Litaki!
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Wed Feb 28, 2001 9:47 pm

My longest flight with a clear destination was Gander-Keflavik, in a C-130, taking about 4 hours-I once took off from NRT in a BA 757, and just set the autopilot to cruise on 090-16 hours later I was near FLL so I landed there-That BA 757 had some screwed up modeling...

Greg
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Wed Feb 28, 2001 10:01 pm

I fly for Northwest Virtual Airlines.

I weekly fly longhaul flights. mostly out of MSP.
destinations vary from AMS to Tokyo.

I normaly use the PSS777 or the Wilco B767 with their
FMC you can fly the route including STAR/SID very good. Longhaul flights are the best.
you just have to have some inflight movies  Smile

www.nwva.org
warm regards
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cba
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Pacific

Thu Mar 01, 2001 11:08 am

Yes, you need the Patch set 1. I have provided a link for you:

ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/deskapps/games/public/flightsim/fs98pat1.exe
 
Pacific
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RE: Cba

Fri Mar 09, 2001 10:35 am

Hey a very big thank you. I downloaded the patch set last night and now FsNav really works!

Pacific
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Mar 10, 2001 1:49 pm

I will be attempting a trans-pacific flight soon and tomorrow I have plans to fly EWR-LGW in 1x speed with a CO 762...making sure that the CPU does NOT crash on me...like my attempt on Monday...

Greg

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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Mar 10, 2001 7:45 pm

I don't like just to sit behind and watch when I fly long range flights. I like to fly between ORD-JFK/NEW/LGA. Usually I takeoff and climb to cruise altitude and then I let the autopilot fly in 4x speed until it's time to land.

GOT
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bobMD11
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Mar 10, 2001 10:19 pm

i must say that i always speeded up the sim rate to 4x,
sometimes i even changed my position on the 'view map'
to get there faster, i found it boring to watch all the time,
now i once did a AMS-san juan flight without speeding up the sim rate, i just did some homewor, took a shower, watch tv, once in a well i check of course, i must say that is really much 'closer to reality' whit no sim rate speeding up

the satisfaction is much better when you have landed.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR REACTIONS!!

bob
 
cba
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Mon Mar 12, 2001 3:46 pm

I recently did SEA-SYD-SEA. Took me 15 hours each way. Not quite as long as my IAH-HGK flight, but pretty close.

Pacifc:
Happy to see that you got FSNavigator to work! Which version do you have? Go to http://www.fsnavigator.com for the newest updates.

BobMD11:
Your profile says that you live in the Hague. Do you go to the American school there?
 
bobMD11
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RE: CBA

Mon Mar 12, 2001 8:01 pm

cba, no, i dont go to the american school, i am just 100% dutchie!!

i just go to a regular dutch secondary school
 
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RE: CBA

Tue Mar 13, 2001 3:04 am

Just wondering, because I know someone who lived in the Hague for 3 years and went to the American school there.
 
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RE: Cba

Wed Mar 14, 2001 8:56 am

I use version 3.0. I will not get Version 4 as my machine only has 48MB RAM. Version 4 needs 64MB. Besides, Version 3 does everything I want it to do!

Pacific
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Fri Mar 16, 2001 12:45 pm

I have flown man longhauls which include:
SIN-LHR
SIN-FRA
HKG-SFO
TPE-LAX
SYD-LAX
ATL-JNB
HKG-EWR
I usually fly using IADGs 747s or Hiroshi Igami's B777s
 
BA
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Fri Mar 16, 2001 1:16 pm

My longest flight was New York (JFK) to London (LHR) on a Virgin Atlantic A340-300.
The flight was on real time, I always leave the time at 1X. The flight took about 8 hours. I enabled the autopilot and let the plane fly the whole trip, until it was time for decent, I began my decent and landed safely and comfortable at LHR.

I'm planning on doing Denver (DEN) to London (LGW) on a British Airways Boeing 747-400, the flight will take about 10 hours.

Kind regards.
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Fri Mar 16, 2001 1:32 pm

I was just wondering, when you you guys normally begin a descent from, lets say...FltLvl 330? or 370?

I usually begin a descent around 130-140 nm away from the airport. I have noticed though, when I fly to Frankfurt on Lufthansa, the descent begins pretty close to the airport. Anyone have any insight on this?

regards,
-FSPilot747
 
cba
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FSPilot747

Fri Mar 16, 2001 3:48 pm

Get FSNavigator, it calculates all that for you.
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Mar 17, 2001 6:52 am

BA,

Ho fast were you flying? They're supposed to take like 6 hours. 8 hours is more like a flight from Dallas or Chicago to London.
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Mar 17, 2001 9:09 am

AeroGlobeAir7,
I was flying 430 knots. The flight really took about 7 1/2 hours. As for 6 hours, I don't think so. I've flown many times (in real life) from JFK to LHR and the flights took usually between 7 1/2 to 8 hours.

You also need to consider the route that I took. I took a somewhat southernly route. If I wanted to, I could've made the flight take 15 hours if I took a bad route. It all depends on the route you take.
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fspilot747
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Mar 17, 2001 10:06 am

Well...I fly LAX-->FRA every year, and the flight time changes a lot. Once it took only 9.5 hrs, and once it took close to around 11 hours. Winds were a big part to it, and also routing. But one more thing. Planes dont usually fly that slow (430 kts). In a 744, a flight like that, you would usually fly well over 500kts. Your speed is pretty low.

By the way, can someone let me know if this makes sense, or was the aircraft display system messed up, because once on my way back from Frankfurt/Main (FRA), the PTV showed that at one point, we were cruising at 700 mph! It was probably because of heavy winds if anything, but can the plane withstand that much?

-FSPilot747
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Mar 17, 2001 10:21 am

I start my descent about 100-120 miles from the airport when cruising at FL370-390

9V-SPJ
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Mar 17, 2001 10:24 am

My descent normally begins at about 170nm from the airport at FL320
 
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RE: FSPilot747

Sun Mar 18, 2001 7:46 am

Im currently flying from Los Angeles to Hongkong with a 747-400.The flight plan calculated 17h which is not real but it should tak about 14h.The longest trip I've ever flown is Vienna-Kuala Lumpur with Lauda Air 777.
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sun Mar 18, 2001 8:34 pm

OK, I have done a longer flight than I wrote earlier.
This time, ARN-SYD with my A340-500. The flight took 18,5 hours. I of course used FSNav with a sim rate at 1x. There was 25000 kg fuel left when I landed, so I will hopefuly try to go to New Zeeland next time.
Enjoy!

Simon Larsson
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Mon Mar 19, 2001 6:59 am

I have 767 PIC - For the FMC users - Where do you get your waypoints from? I don't want to use the cheap GPS or the Navigator thing, cause it takes away from the realism... So how do you get waypoints or airways into the FMC?

Kindest Regards,
:::QantasA330:::
 
Guest

RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Thu Mar 22, 2001 1:18 pm

My longest flight was a round the world nonstop flight from LHR to LHR in the
default FS2K Concorde with the Sim Rate set at 32X. It took about 1 hour but crashed on approach to Heathrow. I also flew the QANTAS A380 from Sydney to San Francisco at 32X with a flight time of 11 hours but only 20 minutes at the
32 rate. I fly all my long legs from 8X to 32X.
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Thu Mar 22, 2001 5:40 pm

For the top-of-descent point, I usually divide the altitude in ft by 320, that gives the miles from the airport at which to start the descent. Works on most aircraft when descending at idle power.

I usually fly my longhauls at night when I am in a hotel overseas. If I like the place, I try to find a flight into that city, if I don't like it, my simulated flight gets out of that city ... I always use the FMC that comes with FS2000 and fly at 1x sim-rate.

Had some fascinating tracks around my destinations when I oversleep
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Thu Mar 22, 2001 8:37 pm

I made a flight one time from Brisbane to Anchorage in a DC-8-70 on 95......I forget how long it took....I did take a nap at one point and let the plane fly itself....
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Thu Mar 22, 2001 8:50 pm

I fly at DC-10 or 777 at 4 to 8 rate
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Mar 24, 2001 1:15 am

Here is my flight (in FS98):-

LH738 From Frankfurt to Hong Kong
Boeing 747-400
DEP TIME 1739 local time (1639 GMT)
ARR TIME 1228 local time (0428 GMT)
Cruising Levels FL350,FL370, 11200m, 10600, FL350
Cruising Speeds Mach 0.84, 0.85
Duration: 12 hours and 11 mins
 
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RE: Long Haul Flights In Fs

Sat Mar 24, 2001 2:07 am

QantasA330: To get FMC waypoints, create a flightplan with fs2000's flight planner, save it with a filename such as EWRORD1 then goto 767 PIC's FMC and at the RTE page under CO ROUTE enter the filename of the flightplan you just created (in this case EWRORD1) then Activate and Execute an you get a full route.

If you e-mail me or ICQ me, I can give better instructions.
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