fspilot747
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Speeing Up Sim-rates Is Wrong

Fri Feb 23, 2001 9:03 am

I am really against speeding up the simulation rate on FS. Its just really really unrealistic. Its just makes everything seem so fake when you go from, for example, LAX to SYD in like 5 hrs. Sims are supposed to be as real as it gets, I dont know why they included the Speeding up sim rate option. Well, anyways, I just wanted to know if I was alone on this, or if anyone agrees. Feel free to let your opinions flow  Smile

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RE: Speeing Up Sim-rates Is Wrong

Fri Feb 23, 2001 10:15 am

I personally wish that I could fly at 128X with the Autopilot on.
The thing is just a simulator and doing longhauls would be too boring at real rate. I definately didn't run my computer for 21hours on my Wellington-Heathrow flight. Since you do nothing at cruise, I don't see why not!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Speeing Up Sim-rates Is Wrong

Fri Feb 23, 2001 7:17 pm

I only use 4X speed when doing Long Haul flights (over 5 hours) and over the Atlantic. I don't always use it but when i don't have enough time on my hands to say fly a 14 hour Long Hauler from London - Singapore i put it on 4X speed for a few hours of the flight. This at least brings the flight time in at somewhere around 5 hours.
I can understand what "FSPilot747" is going on about, but not all of us have that spare 14 hours! And don't get me wrong i'm a keen FS simmer but it's just not gona happen!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Speeing Up Sim-rates Is Wrong

Fri Feb 23, 2001 10:06 pm

I NEVER speed it up! I always like it to be realistic. When I get my hours for my virtual airline, I like to know that they are REAL hours.
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RE: Speeing Up Sim-rates Is Wrong

Sat Feb 24, 2001 2:19 am

Real hours with a simulator? Gimme a break... Your airmanship isn't getting any better while sitting in front of your monitor during cruise.
 
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RE: Speeing Up Sim-rates Is Wrong

Sat Feb 24, 2001 2:33 am

Having just completed a 15hr and 22 minute last night from EWR to HKG, it is really boring to seat there with nothing to do. I took off from EWR before I went to work. By the time I came back, I am still more than 6 hours away.

Unless I have to, I really do not fly in regular speed.
 
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RE: Speeing Up Sim-rates Is Wrong

Sat Feb 24, 2001 5:28 am

I agree with falcon and most of the others. It is simply a waste of time to sit there in cruise for that long. You are not getting paid to do this and, to be frank, a number of you may not even make it as a paid airline pilot. Time is better spent getting involved in community/school, keeping grades up and staying active. The simulator is great for having some fun, and learning about the basics of flight, but to sit there for 15+ hours is simply crazy. Thats just my opinion.
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RE: Speeing Up Sim-rates Is Wrong

Sat Feb 24, 2001 9:38 am

Noooo...Don't get me wrong, lol. I am not saying to sit there for 14 hrs. I set the autopilot, go do whatever I need, sleep, then when time is ready, descend! My long long haul flights I do overnight, so I set it at night before sleeping, then when I wake up, I still got some time. No ones gonna sit there that long..  Smile

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RE: Speeing Up Sim-rates Is Wrong

Sun Feb 25, 2001 8:19 am

oh, ok. That makes more sense. i was wondering who in their right mind would sit their for that long.
 
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RE: N139j

Sun Feb 25, 2001 10:18 am

I would, and will.

I have flown many times EFHk-KJFK-EFHK. That's about 7:30-9:00hrs between Helsinki and New York. Nowadays I mainly fly domestic flights inside Finland and to other nordic countries and countries all around Europe. However, I also do fly often some 5 hour flights from Helsinki to Middle East and back.

It's not stupid. Some people think it's stupid, others don't. I'm one of those others.

You can't really call ome stupid if he/she doesn't do something the way you do.

You all can call me stupid if you want. That's your decision, and I don't care. I do know I'm not stupid and that's all I care about (and of course those 200 people I try to provide a comfortable flight for).

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RE: Speeing Up Sim-rates Is Wrong

Sun Feb 25, 2001 11:03 am

I use 1x speed (never above), and when I am at cruise, I just use other programs...until landing...

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RE: Speeing Up Sim-rates Is Wrong

Sun Feb 25, 2001 12:49 pm

I also get everything set then leave and make checks about every 30 min.
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RE: Speeing Up Sim-rates Is Wrong

Mon Feb 26, 2001 12:33 am

I use it on long haul flight, and would like if the autopilot can use 8x.


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RE: Joona

Mon Feb 26, 2001 3:54 am

First off, i never called you stupid. And second, just out of curiosity, do you sit there the entire time..and if so, why??? It is a well-known fact that the majority of airline pilots are retired military. And i know, from a LOT of research since that is what i want to do, that you will NEVER achieve wings in the military because you have..."Hundreds of hours on a flight simulator". It takes a life, grades, and proof that you can work as a team. Sitting there making a long haul for 7:30-9:00 just doesnt prove that.
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RE: Speeing Up Sim-rates Is Wrong

Mon Feb 26, 2001 4:17 am

No one called anyone "stupid" as far as I know, and no one is stupid to be flightsimming like that. I sometimes sit through the entire flight when I am doing something like DTW to ORD (50 min more or less). But I usually read a book while I am doing it. But when I usually do a flight, long haul or short haul, I set everything, leave, check on it every now and then, and when time comes to descend, I'll get back. Sometimes I'll do a ORD to Paris flight, for my VA (Pacificwestairways.com-its great), and Itll be like 7 hours. Ill takeoff in the morning, do whatever I do in a normal day, usually I'll study or something, and then I'll know when to come back. I just NEVER speed up the simrate because I think it defeats the purpose of realism. But I really wish I had that much time.

I, and probably a lot of highschool ppl out here, spend majority of my day studying and studying. It's just a fact that to become anything these days, it takes a lot of hard work and studying. And I agree with Jason that "hundreds of hours on a flightsim" wont achieve anything. Now you don't have to be in the military to become an airline pilot, I know a lot of people who are pilots who never joined the military, but if you wanna be a real pilot, you have to get a four year college education, preferably somewhere GOOD, and to get somewhere good, you gotta work.

So I don't want anyone to get me wrong, I dont sit there all day staring at a computer screen..it would kill me. So do what you guys wanna do, just work hard, study hard, and keep those simrates normal!!

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RE: Joona

Mon Feb 26, 2001 1:01 pm

I never sait you said I'm stupid. I admit now I could have told it better, I'm sorry. And yes, I do usually sit most of the time in front of the screen, but I usually read something / do my homework. I will never achieve wings in military because my eyesight is not good enough, besides, I wouldn't even want to fly a fighter  Big grin

Btw. first, my grades aren't that bad. Second, I do all my long hauls at night. And I do have life Big grin

PS. Now, after receiving 767 PIC two weeks ago, I must watch for everything to work properly  Laugh out loud

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RE: Speeing Up Sim-rates Is Wrong

Sat Mar 03, 2001 9:16 am

the One (1X time) Rate is the normal operation on any plane except for Concorde flies twice the speed of a 747-400 with a 1-X time rate.

I always fly @ 1X time rate on any flight I make.

Exmaple:

Aircrafts:

Airbus 318, 319, 320, 321, Boeing 717, 727, 737, 757
The cruising speed runs from 400kts to 500kts depending on route.

Leg:

Dallas-Fort Worth to Chicago OHare
Flight hour: 1X time rate = is 2 Hours 30 Minutes, True flight time.


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