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Real World Flying And Flight Simming, My Problem

Wed Sep 05, 2001 11:19 pm

OKay, this may get long, and I may jump from topic to topic, or maybe this will all come out well structured.

I just read some articles on in the OPS-Ed sections. I see many articles about how we should "hand-fly" aircraft and how it's not just about scenery, it's about having realistic flight models, and practicing real-world skills. I even hear that flight simmers can develop "bad habits" in building up to getting their real license.

My question is, how do we get our moneys worth? If you see my post on "getting the most of FS2000" you'll know what I mean, but I think now, I want to take that further. Is it really that interesting flying from point A to point B? I like to duplicate flights that I've been on in real life, but after a while, I only have so many real world flight plans, in fact, only 3, one being trans-atlantic (not feasible right now as far as time), another being domestic, and another regional, the regional being the flight I duplicate most. Then there is the thing of sticking to your home airport or not, I can never decide! It's like this "pride" thing, or just knowing that down the road, you are there in a virtual aircraft in todays weather, so it adds to the "realism". I look for scenery for destination airports, and aircraft, then after several minutes, even after downloading and seeing something, I just abandon the whole thing. A waste of time? I guess.

So my struggle is, what do I want to do in flight simming? Ever since I passed those check rides, I've improved from the "autoland pilot" I used to be, to the "manually fly the aircraft" virtual pilot. That really helped me get more exciting results in flight simming.

Now, I'm stuck in this dilemma of what do I want to do next. I read some of the VA articles, and they got lots of criticism, but for some reason, I'm not looking for a VA now, my time is different here and there, and when I do get the chance to "fly" I want to make the most of it, and I don't want to be those "inactive pilots", so best is to be on the safe side, and not join.

Now I'm just thinking, just forget this scenery stuff, and just get into an aircraft at my local airport, scenery or not, take off and fly around the area, do some touch-and-goes, go through some failures, or things like that, what does everyone else do? I've always been fascinated at the C-5's doing touch and goes, and how them C-130's, anyone know of those patterns? I would appreciate your comments, suggestions and so on, thanks everyone at

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RE: Real World Flying And Flight Simming, My Problem

Thu Sep 06, 2001 4:51 am

On second thought, maybe it's not a big issue as I thought, I just wrote too much there, sorry about that. I guess I'm just looking for a new route, or a new thing to do in FS2000, any suggestions are helpful, thanks.


RE: Real World Flying And Flight Simming, My Problem

Sat Sep 08, 2001 3:01 am

I just like to do small trips, with the airliners however, maybe 1-2 hour trips all over the globe, or anywhere I can find the charts and maps for. I use it to practice instrument flying as well.
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RE: Real World Flying And Flight Simming, My Problem

Sat Sep 08, 2001 8:52 am

I think that's what I'm leaning towards. 1-2 hour trips are ideal to get up, cruise, and land. The charts do help too. Thanks for the comments.

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RE: Real World Flying And Flight Simming, My Problem

Mon Sep 10, 2001 2:37 am

Hmm...I didn't know this was a good thing..

When I first started flightsimming like 5 or 6 years ago, i never new how to autoland, or anything. So I learned by manual landing. Even up till today, I always manual land the planes, including the heavies. The PSS747 has a great autoland, and even though I know how to do it, I still manual land the plane everytime. It was only recently after reading some posts here, that people WANT to learn how to autoland. So I have some tips for you guys. After starting flightschool, I realized how imporant it is to stop using the autoland so much! To manual land any plane, including the 747's and etc.., It involves both lots of common sense, and precision. It's ALL about experience. I guarantee you, if you start now, in 3 years, youll be a pro. Anyways, I just thought id bring that up, manual landing brings in much more fun into flightsimming.

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RE: Real World Flying And Flight Simming, My Problem

Mon Sep 10, 2001 8:04 am

Autoland??? Is that your plane is landed automaticly???
I'm using Microsoft Flight simulator since 1997. First FS95 then I switched to FS2000Pro.
I dont fly everyday or once a week. I can say that I'm flying periodicaly. Like 3 days in a row in one month. Like some of you know, I just passed private pilot check ride for the first time. But I never knew that you can autoland plane. Since 1997 I'm landing all airplanes manualy and I can do it very well. The things that makes me mad is that, that I still dont know how to use NAV or COM frequencies in Flight Simulator. Any comments on this subject?

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RE: Real World Flying And Flight Simming, My Problem

Mon Sep 10, 2001 8:58 am

NAV and COM frequencies are used for navigation and landing. I will start with the easy one first.
If you are not using an adventure that requires you to tune in ATC, then you do not use these often. You can always use them for weather though. Just find the ATIS frequency for the airport, tune it in, and when you are in range, you will get a weather report on the top of your screen.
If you are not flying GPS, you need to know how to run these radios. Your flight plan should be based on VORTACs (VORs) and Non-Directional Beacons (NDBs). I will use the VORs first. Pretend you are flying at a heading of 100* and you are enroute to Podunk Munci. You look at a map of the Podunk area and you see that there is a VOR dead head. The frequency for this VOR (we will call it JGH) is 113.2. Tune this in to your NAV1 radio and turn your OBS course to 100*. You are now flying the 100-degree radial of the JGH VOR (a VOR has 360 radials). Basicly you keep navigating in this manner lining yourself up with the radial you choose. There is a great lesson on it in the FS2K pilots manual (standard edition). Hope this helps.
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RE: Real World Flying And Flight Simming, My Problem

Tue Sep 11, 2001 2:05 am

I agree with the manual landing of aircraft in FS2000, becuase otherwise, we'd just be sitting in front of our simulators letting the PC do the work. I like to manually fly the approaches.

My problem now is, what do I want to fly, where, and when? Like Lindy, I can only fly like once a week, or less, so when I do fly in the simulator, I want it to be worthwhile. I thought of doing a pattern around an airport where I can still practice holding patterns VOR navigation and the such. I don't know, I'm still debating about it.


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