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Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 10, 2001 9:30 am

Hi everyone,

I am currently still using FS2000 on my computer. I am using the PSS B744 and PSS B777. JUst wondering, have you done any long haul flights like Singapore to Amsterdam? I tried this on the PSSB777-200ER and the route was like about 5500nm and I can't do it. I don't have enough fuel. If I add more fuel, the plane would be overweight.

How about yours?

alvin
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 10, 2001 9:36 am

Yeah I actually did Amsterdam to Toronto once.... I didn't even have a flight plan or anything, i was just doing takeoffs and landings at Schiphol and decided to try it. I even swung by Greenland just to take a look... I used a KLM 747-400 from POSKY.. and i had plenty of fuel left.
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 10, 2001 10:06 am

I flew JFK-LHR, it was great, and I had tons of fuel left. I think 100,000 pounds!
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 10, 2001 10:29 am

Yeash I do alot in between London, New York, Chicago, Moscow, Frankfurt, Paris etc. I do it mostly on 777s 767s or A330s
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 10, 2001 2:57 pm

I flew a B777 from Singapore to Amsterdam, it couldn't make it I don't understand why and the trip was only like 5000 + nautical miles and PSS's was an ER version. My ZFW is 400 and my fuel was 250. That makes a total of 650 which is under the ER's MTW but I don't have enough fuel to reach there. Any idea why?

Thanks and God Bless

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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 10, 2001 5:14 pm

Whats your crusing speed? As this can have alot to do with how much your fuel burn is. Considering i use the B777-200ER to fly frome New York to Hong Kong and have a fair bit of fuel left i think you must be doing something wrong. I cruise between FL370 and FL390 (37.000-39.000 feet) at a speed of around mach 0.84-0.87. I know that pilots can get a 747-400 up to mach 0.90 to make up time on route, but they don't like doing this as it wastes alot of fuel. Maybe you are having the same problem?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 10, 2001 5:33 pm

I cruise at FL280 initially due I cannot go any higher as my plane is heavy with an OPT alttidute of FL297. My cruising Mach at FL280 is .82 and when I go higher, .84-.85. By the way, how did you managed to climb direct FL370-FL390? Only an empty B777 can do that.. I trust you are quite heavy unless you've go no POB.

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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 10, 2001 6:04 pm

Hi all,
I often do long haul flights.. Mostly between Europe and Asia. My latest long haul flight was London Heathrow - Hong Kong.. It took me almost 13 hours. I flew with POSKY Cathay Pacific B747-400 together with PSS 744 panel. They are nice and realistic.
For long haul flights (or medium flights), aircrafts will firstly fly at a lower altitude. After flying for say 2-3 hours, the aircraft will be lighter as fuel burned.. Then the aircraft will climb for a higher alititude.. The time for climbing and place (waypoint) for climbing is prepared in the flight plan. But it will be issued by the local ATC at last.. My flight (LHR-HKG) had put in 138.1 tonnes of fuel.. And the flight plan (ATC route only):

N0486F290 BPK6F BPK UR123 CLN UL620 REDFA UR12 JUIST UP729 TALSA UP730 CDA UM611 SORLA UP862 LIMAK/K0914S0910 G59 GR R30 SU/K0914S1010 R30 KTZ R22 ZJ B200 KD A91 UNWW B330 NIGOR/K0919S1110 B330 MORIT/K0923S1140 B330 GYA A599 POU R473 SIERA/N489F370 DCT MANGO DCT TD DCT

This is the real flight plan. I got the ATC route from CX254 (4/8/01) when I visited the cockpit of it. Hope all of you will like it and share some of your real flight plans here.

Best,
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 10, 2001 6:15 pm

Yeah all the time!!
Recently i flew LHR-LAX(In fs2000 pro) with the posky744 and PSS panel and sounds recreating the AIR NZ1 flight.
I used FSNAV for the route, put the info in the PSS FMC, flew at FL390, with full fuel cruising at Mach 0.87, took about 10.5hrs. Stayed at LAX for 2hrs, fully refueled, did flight Plan in FSNAV then into FMC, flew to Auckland at FL410, at mach 0.85, took about 12hrs.
Had a great time !!
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 10, 2001 6:56 pm

I used the POSKY SAS 763 to do the Tokyo-Copenhagen flight. I also did a SQ 777 flight from Brisbane-Singapore. Autopilot is a great feature  Big grin
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 10, 2001 10:11 pm

Thanks for the replies guys.  Smile I have one question here. Those of you who are using the PSS panel for either the B747 or B777, once establised on cruise after climb, under the Prog page, what's the average reading of remaining fuel you have there? My B747 have an average of 45 which is very little and my B777 even worse, -12 which means I won't reach there.

Those who climb to high I think you flew empty except for your fuel? I always have almost full cargo and passengers which make my ZFW as (506.8 or so for the B744) and (400 for the B777). And my max level will never go any higher than FL330 unless I have little fuel.

Thanks

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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 10, 2001 11:03 pm

London to HongKong- VS A340
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sun Nov 11, 2001 12:13 am

Hi vgnatl747,
Have you got its real flight plan? I'm really interested in anything about virgin atlantic!

Best,
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Mon Nov 12, 2001 12:16 am

What is POSKY?
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Mon Nov 12, 2001 1:33 am

Its a group which makes freeware aircrafts for fs. their site is http://www.avsim.com/posky

Aircraft Avaliabe at the momonet:
767-300,767-400,747-100,747-200,747-300,747-400,777-200,777-300 with the 330 and 757 soon to be released!

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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Mon Nov 12, 2001 2:35 am

I bought my FS2002 and i must recommand the game to those who are thinking of buying this game .

I have completed my first flight
Singapore-KL and i have plans to fly longer routes when i have the time

Have a nice one
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Mon Nov 12, 2001 3:11 am

Just copleted a very nice flight with my AA767 POSKY from JFK-FRA overnight flight. Got some very nice thunderstorms with heaby rain on the APR into FRA  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Mon Nov 12, 2001 3:29 am

Say, a question about the long haul flights. How do you do them, I mean timewise? I hear something about people going to sleep and waking up just in time for the descent, is this true? Or do you cruise for the full 9 hours or so? I'm interested in doing a transatlantic sometime, and I'd like to know how everyone else does these routes.

By the way, I have a real-world 777 flight plan (EDDF-KORD) if anyone is interested, I will post it here.

Regards
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Mon Nov 12, 2001 4:24 am

For my long hauls I either do the departure and arrival in real time and fly the rest at X16 or X32. On other occasions I will let the autopilot do the flying while I'm sleeping or at work. This works well for legs that require 8 hours of flying time (LGW - IAH) for example.
Also I always fly direct GPS even though its not realistic it gets me there!
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Mon Nov 12, 2001 4:59 am

I once flew a Lufthansa A340-600 between CPT and FRA.
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Mon Nov 12, 2001 5:02 am

I am now flying a Lauda Air POSKY 777-200ER from VIE to BKK. Mr. BA, if the 777 can only reach FL370-390 when it's empty, the plane would not sell at all. You are probably doing something wrong, but I can't tell what.

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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Mon Nov 12, 2001 6:20 am

I've done a few flight which I consider "long haul":

SEA-ANC Pan American DC-8-32
ANC-SEAAlaska Airlines MD-83
OAK-OGG Aloha Airlines 737-700
LAX-HNLHawaiian Airlines DC-10
LAX-HNL Continental Airlines DC-10
LAX-HNL Delta Airlines L-1011
TUS-HNL Hawaiian Airlines DC-8-62
SEA-HNL Continental Airlines MD-82
LAX-NRT TWA Boeing 747-400
LAX-SIN Trans Pacific Airlines A340-300
SYD-Cape Town, SA QANTAS Airbus A300
NRT-ANC Eastern L-1011

That's it for me, I fly alot.

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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Mon Nov 12, 2001 6:28 am

Oh shoot I forgot some, can't forget my south pacific flights!!

HNL-Tarawa, Kirbati
HNL-Christmas ISland, Kiribati
HNL-Papeete, Tahiti
HNL-Apia, Western Samoa
HNL-Pago Pago, American Samoa
HNL-Midway Atoll
HNL-Johnston Atoll
HNL-Aitutaki, Cook Islands
HNL-Rarotonga, Cook Islands
HNL-Kwajalein, Marshall Islands
HNL-Noumea, New Caledonia
Majuro Atoll, Marshall Islands-HNL
Papeete, Tahiti-Gambier Atoll
Gambier Atoll-Papeete
Papeete-Tarawa
Tarawa-Guam, USA
Guam-HNL
HNL-Pago Pago
Pago Pago-Nadi, Fiji
Nadi-SYD


I think I've done even more south pacific flights than that but I can't rembeer them all.

Aloha 737-200!!  Wink/being sarcastic

 
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747-400 Fuel Calculation

Tue Nov 13, 2001 9:36 am

Hi Alvin,

All the time. Usually from London(EGLL) to USA like LAX, SFO, MIA.
My longest flight was London to Tokyo. It took 13 hours.(with holds and taxing).
I fly 747-400 and always left 17%-30% fuel in the tanks for proper landing.(Since I dont have any pass. and freight weight)
I do have calculation which I made from web sites and one of my real life aviation video.( I could be wrong I am sorry for misleading. It has been working well for me)
My cal is simple. (if you need it I could e-mail the manual of 747-400. It is not original)
Here how I start:

Once I have heard that with full pass. and almost full freight
EGLL-SFO flight 747-400
fuel load is 118 tons (FL 39, .86 speed)
usage : 107 tons
taxi: 1 ton

now
EGLL-SFO is ~4803 nm
and max range of 747-400 is ~ 7,335 nm
and in FS 2000 747-400 can hold 385,995 lbs of fuel
(trans= 1000 ton is 2.2 lbs)
You can do the math by simple equation
If you use 108 tons for 4803 nm of flight how much you use for x nm of route I know not the exact calculation but it will get you there nicely)

and so on..
I hope it helps.if you need help with the math let me know
 
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747-400 Fuel Calculation

Tue Nov 13, 2001 9:39 am

Hi Alvin,

All the time. Usually from London(EGLL) to USA like LAX, SFO, MIA.
My longest flight was London to Tokyo. It took 13 hours.(with holds and taxing).
I fly 747-400 and always left 17%-30% fuel in the tanks for proper landing.(Since I dont have any pass. and freight weight)
I do have calculation which I made from web sites and one of my real life aviation video.( I could be wrong I am sorry for misleading. It has been working well for me)
My cal is simple. (if you need it I could e-mail the manual of 747-400. It is not original)
Here how I start:

Once I have heard that with full pass. and almost full freight
EGLL-SFO flight 747-400
fuel load is 118 tons (FL 39, .86 speed)
usage : 107 tons
taxi: 1 ton

now
EGLL-SFO is ~4803 nm
and max range of 747-400 is ~ 7,335 nm
and in FS 2000 747-400 can hold 385,995 lbs of fuel
(trans= 1000 ton is 2.2 lbs)
You can do the math by simple equation
If you use 108 tons for 4803 nm of flight how much you use for x nm of route I know not the exact calculation but it will get you there nicely)

and so on..
I hope it helps.if you need help with the math let me know
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Tue Nov 13, 2001 3:41 pm

i like to fly the 777 on long hauls. the ones that i can remember doing are:

SEA-HKG
HKG-CDG
CDG-EWR
MKE-LHR
PHL-CDG
PHL-MAD
SAN-NRT
SAN-HKG
PHL-MUC

i never paid much attention to fuel....i guess keeping track of it would add some more realism to it. all i know is that i'd fill up completely and that i'd have plenty left over whenever i'd land
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Tue Nov 13, 2001 6:48 pm

I've only flown on a combat simulator, but with all the talk going on here it makes me wonder. How do you guys sit in front of the computer for HOURS? In real life it would take over 6-8hrs to cross the Atlantic, is there a "speed up time" button?

I'd rather get to FLXX0, flip on autopilot, increase the time, get up and stretch and smile when I see the French west coast approaching at like 7 times the speed of sound, ya know.  Big thumbs up

Then I'd begin landing procedures.
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RE: Lehpron

Tue Nov 13, 2001 8:46 pm

I've flown routes such as JFK-HKG and Moscow-Honolulu!

The way I do it on my FS98, I use FSNavigator 3.0 to plan my flight path, take off at 1x speed and then crank it up to 4x, the max simulation rate with the A/P. When I reach the cruise altitude, I just press one button on the Navigator and it'll keep the plane on course just by itself!

Pacific
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Wed Nov 14, 2001 7:31 am

What is PSS?
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Wed Nov 14, 2001 7:38 am

Cxcx330 - I sent you an e-mail about your response to my post.
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Wed Nov 14, 2001 8:51 am

Thanks a lot for the replies guys.

VgnAtl747, PSS is an add-on for FS2K. (B744 and B772) and the panel is far more accurate than any others. There is FMC too.

Anyone care to post flight plans here?

alvin
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Wed Nov 14, 2001 10:54 am

Long hauls are great, it's a great feeling when you finish them. I have done LAX-SYD many times during the summer vacation, also I have done HNL-LHR. After PSS came out with their 777 and the 747 I increased the long hauls. Then school was getting real hard and taking some hard classes, so haven't done a long haul in MONTHS...I know, it sucks.

heh, take care,
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Wed Nov 14, 2001 12:55 pm

when i do long hauls i usually set the simulation rate to 4x and leave it on ap. i'll adjust the course every now and then and i'll usually try to get something else done other than sitting in front of the computer. and on top of that i often cheat: i travel till i'm out over the ocean for a while, and then move the plane on map mode till it's not too far from the coast of the destination continent and finish out the course.
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Thu Nov 15, 2001 4:42 am

I flew from London to Mexico city before!
Great scenery down the coast of America!
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Thu Nov 15, 2001 5:21 am

Anyone got a link for PSS?It sounds good.Thanks,Alex
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Thu Nov 15, 2001 5:37 am

This weekend i will fly the Finnair MD11 to Singapore via Bangkok from Helsinki in FS2002, none of this 4x rate its cheating!!!.
Also I Flew LHR to Cape town last weekend with the SAA 747-400, fantastic flight , you must try it!!
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Thu Nov 15, 2001 8:37 am

It seems that there is a good number of people who like long hauls. I still really want to sit down one day and do it, but school has got me quite busy. If anyone is intersted in that EDDF-KORD, just let me know, and I'll post it.

Anymore comments on the method where one departs, sets it in AP, and then goes to sleep and wakes up in time for the approach? Perhaps that would suit my situation best.

Regards
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Thu Nov 15, 2001 10:55 am

Man didn't know there were so many people who love flying longhauls as me.  Smile

Cramos, take the plane off your origin airport, get your plane to be on cruise and on course and turn on Lnav and Vnav. There you go. You can sleep for the next few hours (depending your flight) then com back and descend it. I always wake up in the night to climb my plane higer as it gets lighter... why not show us your EDDF-KORD flight plan?

Thanks for the replies

alvin

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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 7:14 am

Got one more question though. In FS2002, I use the ATC feature. If I go ahead and leave the computer for a while while it's on AP, how do I confirm the latest ATC communications? Is there a auto feature that allows this? Also, how could the altitude assignments be changed if I'm away, if requested by ATC?

Regards
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 7:32 am

2 weeks ago I flew on a Dan Air Comet, the same one pictured below, from KDTW-EGLL.... It was a pleasant ride.


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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 9:05 am

Mr. BA,

I'll post the EDDF-KORD plan up tommorrow. It's obviously pretty long as far as waypoints is concerned  Smile.

Regards
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 9:31 am

At the matter of fact, I just completed the standard routing for KLM flight 785 from St. Martin/Sint Maarten to Amsterdam via Curacao in real time. I flew it online with VATSIM & Amsterdam Approach guided me onto the ILS for rwy 27. Interesting landing, taking into account the 9 kts of crosswind at an 80 degree angle!!
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Fri Nov 16, 2001 12:52 pm

I do KORD to EGLL all the time.
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 11:53 am

Hi Cramos,

No problem just take your time. I still gotta thank you for posting the flight plan. Once again, thank you Smile

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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:34 pm

Mr. BA,

By the way, did you want any altitude assignments with that? Or do you just want the waypoints? This flight plan is pages long, it's got all kinds of information. Let me know, and then I'll post it.

Regards
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 6:41 pm

FS2K(FS2000) Flight Plans: [enroute = stop city]

Long haul flight plans was made twice for each flight including a stop as an en-routed airport selected.

B777-300 was only default plane i used for most B773 plans. All flights were at between 34,000 ft - 43,000 ft.
Cruising speed 450mph - 570mph. Lights on at all time for MP players to see online. I will go for a new PC system to run FS2K2 sometimes mid to late 2002.





2 segment path: 5656 nm - B763
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) ATL (33°38'26"N 84°25'37"W) 635 nm
ATL (33°38'26"N 84°25'37"W) IST (40°35'N 28°29'E) 5021 nm



DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) NRT (35°26'N 140°14'E) 5604 nm - B773



2 segment path: 6083 nm - B744
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) 1208 nm
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) CAI (30°04'N 31°14'E) 4874 nm


2 segment path: 7087 nm - A343
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) FRA (50°01'N 08°20'E) 4462 nm
FRA (50°01'N 08°20'E) DXB (25°09'N 55°13'E) 2624 nm


2 segment path: 2039 nm - B763
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) MIA (25°47'35"N 80°17'25"W) 974 nm
MIA (25°47'35"N 80°17'25"W) SXM (18°02'N 63°04'W) 1065 nm


2 segment path: 7707 nm - B744
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) SFO (37°37'08"N 122°22'29"W) 1272 nm
SFO (37°37'08"N 122°22'29"W) SYD (33°34'S 151°06'E) 6435 nm


2 segment path: 6736 nm - B744
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) 1072 nm
LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) AKL (37°00'S 174°28'E) 5663 nm


DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) LHR (51°29'N 00°28'W) 4127 nm - B763


DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) FRA (50°01'N 08°20'E) 4462 nm - A343


DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) CDG (49°00'N 02°20'E) 4292 nm - A343


DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) MUC (48°13'N 11°28'E) 4625 nm - B773


DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) SNN (52°25'N 08°33'W) 3830 nm - A333


2 segment path: 8493 nm - B744
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) PDX (45°35'19"N 122°35'51"W) 1403 nm
PDX (45°35'19"N 122°35'51"W) SIN (01°13'N 103°35'E) 7089 nm


2 segment path: 4788 nm - A343
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) MIA (25°47'35"N 80°17'25"W) 974 nm
MIA (25°47'35"N 80°17'25"W) EZE (34°29'S 58°19'W) 3813 nm


2 segment path: 4768 nm - B763
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) ORD (41°58'47"N 87°54'16"W) 696 nm
ORD (41°58'47"N 87°54'16"W) WAW (52°10'N 20°58'E) 4071 nm


DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) AMS (52°11'N 04°27'E) 4269 nm - B763


DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) BCN (41°11'N 02°03'E) 4517 nm - B763


2 segment path: 6047 nm - B744
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) AMS (52°11'N 04°27'E) 4269 nm
AMS (52°11'N 04°27'E) DAM (33°17'N 36°08'E) 1777 nm


2 segment path: 5500 nm A343
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) 1208 nm
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) ATH (37°49'N 23°46'E) 4291 nm


2 segment path: 6129 nm - B773
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) 1208 nm
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) TLV (32°00'N 34°32'E)
920 nm


DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) HNL (21°19'07"N 157°55'21"W) 3288 nm - B773


2 segment path: 8477 nm - B744
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) PDX (45°35'19"N 122°35'51"W) 1403 nm
PDX (45°35'19"N 122°35'51"W) KUL (03°04'N 101°20'E) 7073 nm


2 segment path: 6192 nm - A333
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) 1208 nm
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) AMM (31°26'N 35°35'E) 4983 nm


DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) LGW (51°05'N 00°07'W) 4150 nm - A333


2 segment path: 5985 nm - B744
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) 1072 nm
LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) NGO (35°09'N 136°33'E) 4912 nm

I will be using "Great Circle Mapper" to determine what plane I will need for this route. It gives you the nautical miles for each segments & paths. http://gc.kls2.com/

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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 2:50 am

Correction:



2 segment path: 6129 nm - B773
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) 1208 nm
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) TLV (32°00'N 34°32'E) 4920 nm

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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 6:11 am

The longest route I've ever flown on FS2K was LAX-HNL, where I actually sat INFRONT of the computer for 6 hours! I prefer smaller routes in the 737, like LAX-DEN
LAX-DFW, LAX-SFO,...etc. I also do alot of inter-european stuff, my longest there was Beirut-LHR, but also TLS(Toulouse)-LHR, LHR-Athens, Zurich-Edinburgh...etc.
-Happy flying! Big grin

P.S. Now I only use FS98 because it runs very well. FS2K has UNBEARABLE frame rates for me...  Sad
 
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Alvin!

Sun Nov 18, 2001 6:12 am

Hey you! Where are your grammar skills? It's FLOWN! Big grin
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RE: Have You Ever Flew Long Hauls?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 7:11 am

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4 segment path: 11313 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) ATL (33°38'26"N 84°25'37"W) 635 nm
ATL (33°38'26"N 84°25'37"W) IST (40°35'N 28°29'E) 5021 nm
IST (40°35'N 28°29'E) ATL (33°38'26"N 84°25'37"W) 5021 nm
ATL (33°38'26"N 84°25'37"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 635 nm
A343




2 segment path: 11208 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) NRT (35°26'N 140°14'E) 5604 nm
NRT (35°26'N 140°14'E) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 5604 nm
B744




4 segment path: 12167 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) 1208 nm
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) CAI (30°04'N 31°14'E) 4874 nm
CAI (30°04'N 31°14'E) JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) 4874 nm
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 1208 nm
A343




4 segment path: 14174 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) FRA (50°01'N 08°20'E) 4462 nm
FRA (50°01'N 08°20'E) DXB (25°09'N 55°13'E) 2624 nm
DXB (25°09'N 55°13'E) FRA (50°01'N 08°20'E) 2624 nm
FRA (50°01'N 08°20'E) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 4462 nm
A343





4 segment path: 4079 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) MIA (25°47'35"N 80°17'25"W) 974 nm
MIA (25°47'35"N 80°17'25"W) SXM (18°02'N 63°04'W) 1065 nm
SXM (18°02'N 63°04'W) MIA (25°47'35"N 80°17'25"W) 1065 nm
MIA (25°47'35"N 80°17'25"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 974 nm
B763




4 segment path: 13611 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) LHR (51°29'N 00°28'W) 4127 nm
LHR (51°29'N 00°28'W) RUH (24°35'N 46°26'E) 2677 nm
RUH (24°35'N 46°26'E) LHR (51°29'N 00°28'W) 2677 nm
LHR (51°29'N 00°28'W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 4127 nm
B744




4 segment path: 15415 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) SFO (37°37'08"N 122°22'29"W) 1272 nm
SFO (37°37'08"N 122°22'29"W) SYD (33°34'S 151°06'E) 6435 nm
SYD (33°34'S 151°06'E) SFO (37°37'08"N 122°22'29"W) 6435 nm
SFO (37°37'08"N 122°22'29"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 1272 nm
B744




4 segment path: 13472 nm -
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) 1072 nm
LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) AKL (37°00'S 174°28'E) 5663 nm
AKL (37°00'S 174°28'E) LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) 5663 nm
LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 1072 nm
B744





2 segment path: 8255 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) LHR (51°29'N 00°28'W) 4127 nm
LHR (51°29'N 00°28'W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 4127 nm
B773




2 segment path: 8584 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) CDG (49°00'N 02°20'E) 4292 nm
CDG (49°00'N 02°20'E) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 4292 nm
A343




2 segment path: 9251 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) MUC (48°13'N 11°28'E) 4625 nm
MUC (48°13'N 11°28'E) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 4625 nm
A773




2 segment path: 7660 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) SNN (52°25'N 08°33'W) 3830 nm
SNN (52°25'N 08°33'W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 3830 nm
B773




4 segment path: 16986 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) PDX (45°35'19"N 122°35'51"W) 1403 nm
PDX (45°35'19"N 122°35'51"W) SIN (01°13'N 103°35'E) 7089 nm
SIN (01°13'N 103°35'E) PDX (45°35'19"N 122°35'51"W) 7089 nm
PDX (45°35'19"N 122°35'51"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 1403 nm
B744




4 segment path: 9576 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) MIA (25°47'35"N 80°17'25"W) 974 nm
MIA (25°47'35"N 80°17'25"W) EZE (34°29'S 58°19'W) 3813 nm
EZE (34°29'S 58°19'W) MIA (25°47'35"N 80°17'25"W) 3813 nm
MIA (25°47'35"N 80°17'25"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 974 nm
B744




4 segment path: 9536 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) ORD (41°58'47"N 87°54'16"W) 696 nm
ORD (41°58'47"N 87°54'16"W) WAW (52°10'N 20°58'E) 4071 nm
WAW (52°10'N 20°58'E) ORD (41°58'47"N 87°54'16"W) 4071 nm
ORD (41°58'47"N 87°54'16"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 696 nm
B763




2 segment path: 8539 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) AMS (52°11'N 04°27'E) 4269 nm
AMS (52°11'N 04°27'E) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 4269 nm
B763




2 segment path: 9034 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) BCN (41°11'N 02°03'E) 4517 nm
BCN (41°11'N 02°03'E) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 4517 nm
B773




4 segment path: 12094 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) AMS (52°11'N 04°27'E) 4269 nm
AMS (52°11'N 04°27'E) DAM (33°17'N 36°08'E) 1777 nm
DAM (33°17'N 36°08'E) AMS (52°11'N 04°27'E) 1777 nm
AMS (52°11'N 04°27'E) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 4269 nm
B763




4 segment path: 11000 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) 1208 nm
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) ATH (37°49'N 23°46'E) 4291 nm
ATH (37°49'N 23°46'E) JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) 4291 nm
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 1208 nm
A343




4 segment path: 12259 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) 1208 nm
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) TLV (32°00'N 34°32'E) 4920 nm
TLV (32°00'N 34°32'E) JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) 4920 nm
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 1208 nm
B773




2 segment path: 6576 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) HNL (21°19'07"N 157°55'21"W) 3288 nm
HNL (21°19'07"N 157°55'21"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 3288 nm
B773




4 segment path: 16954 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) PDX (45°35'19"N 122°35'51"W) 1403 nm
PDX (45°35'19"N 122°35'51"W) KUL (03°04'N 101°20'E) 7073 nm
KUL (03°04'N 101°20'E) PDX (45°35'19"N 122°35'51"W) 7073 nm
PDX (45°35'19"N 122°35'51"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 1403 nm
B744




4 segment path: 12385 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) 1208 nm
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) AMM (31°26'N 35°35'E) 4983 nm
AMM (31°26'N 35°35'E) JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) 4983 nm
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 1208 nm
B763




4 segment path: 11008 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) LGW (51°05'N 00°07'W) 4150 nm
LGW (51°05'N 00°07'W) SVO (55°35'N 37°15'E) 1353 nm
SVO (55°35'N 37°15'E) LGW (51°05'N 00°07'W) 1353 nm
LGW (51°05'N 00°07'W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 4150 nm
B763




4 segment path: 11970 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) 1072 nm
LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) NGO (35°09'N 136°33'E) 4912 nm
NGO (35°09'N 136°33'E) LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) 4912 nm
LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 1072 nm
B744




4 segment path: 13512 nm
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) IAD (38°56'41"N 77°27'21"W) 1018 nm
IAD (38°56'41"N 77°27'21"W) JED (21°25'N 39°05'E) 5737 nm
JED (21°25'N 39°05'E) IAD (38°56'41"N 77°27'21"W) 5737 nm
IAD (38°56'41"N 77°27'21"W) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'33"W) 1018 nm
B744



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