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Nearly Slammed Into 737 In Midair In FS2002

Wed Jul 17, 2002 11:31 pm

A couple of days ago, I took off from IAD on a POSKY KLM 747-400 with Feel-Real textures. I was flying over upstate New York at sunset at FL369, when Boston Center informs me to "Caution: KLM 91 heavy. 737 traffic ahead 4 miles FL371." Now I was flying due east at about Mach .90(I know, I was kinda gunning it, hehehe). Off to my right, I see a set of blinking lights hurtling towards my a/c. These "lights" were the night lights of the 737, and this aircraft was heading due north. Before I could adjust, I saw the shadowy figure of a Boeing 737 flying at FL371. And my KL744 was climbing and now reached the same altitude that the 737 was on. The 737 zipped in front of me, barely missing my 747 by about 100 feet. I flew right through the 737's contrails, and continued onward to my destination. I just managed to avoid a catastrophic midair collision!
 
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RE: Nearly Slammed Into 737 In Midair In FS2002

Thu Jul 18, 2002 4:39 am

I nearly had a similar situation as you (except I almost had a collision during landing) here was my situation:

I was flying a AirTran 717 I just downloaded (a AWSOME plane I ABSOUTLY LOVE IT) anyway I was told by ATC that I was cleared for landing at ATL rwy 9L #1 for landing, I acknowledged ATC and was getting ready to land. I hear over the radio ATC clearing a Landmark 777-300 to land #2 for landing and to follow the 717 (my plane) on final. A few seconds later I see the Landmark 777-300 pass about 100 feet above me and dive right in front of me! I had to bank right to avoid hitting it!

Next thing I know ATC is telling me to go around and is telling the Landmark 777-300 it's cleared to land!!
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RE: Nearly Slammed Into 737 In Midair In FS2002

Thu Jul 18, 2002 4:48 am

Man, that sucks Dragon-Wings! Talk about slacking on the job. That ATC guy at that airport should be fired! And so should that 773 pilot.
 
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RE: Nearly Slammed Into 737 In Midair In FS2002

Thu Jul 18, 2002 6:33 am

I haven't been so lucky in my experiences.  Laugh out loud I was landing a 737-400 at Chicago-O'Hare after a flight from Kansas City when a Pacifica MD-80 tailended me on short final. They REALLY need to make ATC capable of maintaining spacing between aircraft! The same thing happened to me a week ago on approach to Springfield/Branson Regional in a Beech 1900D after a flight from Johnson County Executive. This time I believe it was a Learjet or a DHC-8. I'm starting to get annoyed with this problem.  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: Nearly Slammed Into 737 In Midair In FS2002

Fri Jul 19, 2002 9:08 am


My scorecard reads one miss and one hit.

The hit was annoying and avoidable. I was coming in to land at Brisbane (YBBN) and could see an aircraft lining up for departure. The departing aircraft started its roll just before I crossed the runway threshold. By this time I had already nosed up and started to initiate a go-around. Before I could gain enough speed to climb and turn, the departing aircraft took off and slammed into the underside of my aircraft  Sad

For the near-miss, I was flying a Rome-London flight in a BA B763 when I had a traffic warning of an MD11 at my 2 o'clock. I was up around the North-west coast of Italy sitting on FL350, the same flight level the other traffic was at. I had a look around and saw nothing, so kept heading on my course. The next thing I know a flash goes past the window so close that I nearly fell off my chair. At the same time ATC gave me a "TRAFFIC ALERT" for an aircraft less than one mile. Unfortunately I couldn't find the response "no sh*t Sherlock!!" in my ATC box Big grin

It amazes me that with all that sky, the number of times you come close to other aircraft.

B727-200.
 
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RE: Nearly Slammed Into 737 In Midair In FS2002

Sat Jul 20, 2002 8:02 am

My friend & I were flying STT-STX a few weeks ago (on his FS2002) in a Beech King Air & while overwater, found that we were flying straight toward a low-flying 737.

What did we do? He was flying & made a hard right turn & we escaped disaster. It was close though...

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RE: Nearly Slammed Into 737 In Midair In FS2002

Sat Jul 20, 2002 11:24 am

Hey, with Ttools this happens all the time, esp with all the AI a/c I have flying around. It's mostly on landings though that it happens.
 
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RE: Nearly Slammed Into 737 In Midair In FS2002

Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:00 am

B727-200 said:The next thing I know a flash goes past the window so close that I nearly fell off my chair. At the same time ATC gave me a "TRAFFIC ALERT" for an aircraft less than one mile. Unfortunately I couldn't find the response "no sh*t Sherlock!!" in my ATC box

Lol!!! That is so funny!  Laugh out loud

B727-200 also said: It amazes me that with all that sky, the number of times you come close to other aircraft

I couldn't agree with you more.
 
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RE: Nearly Slammed Into 737 In Midair In FS2002

Sun Jul 21, 2002 9:38 pm


Nightcruiser,

I wish my wife shared your appreciation and amusement of my abuse at FS2k2's ATC!!!! Big grin I am sure she thinks that I am crazy.

I always fly VOR or high altitude airways, so in theory should not be in the same flight path as AI aircraft (AI aircraft use direct airport-airport GPS of course). Yet, every time I fly over Europe or the USA I am forever dodging other aircraft. It might have something to do with the 150,000+ flights I am now up to with my additions using ttools......


B727-200.

P.S. Do you realise that the spell checker suggests replacing your name with nightshirt?? I'd be really pissed with that!!
 
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RE: Nearly Slammed Into 737 In Midair In FS2002

Sun Jul 21, 2002 10:49 pm

Hi,

I finally had my first mid-air collision. I had an American BAe146 in STL and was bound for Springfield, IL. I took off at sunset and climbed through the clouds to my cruising altitude of 12,000 ft. As the sun had disappeared and sunk beyond the horizon, I started getting continual warnings of a company 737 off to my right. THen, as I decending through 10,000ft an American 737-400 zoomed right in front of me, its wing went through my aircraft.

That's the only hit I have had, but I have had a few close calls...

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RE: Nearly Slammed Into 737 In Midair In FS2002

Mon Jul 22, 2002 10:42 am

I was also flying the fabulous CSI 717 of Air tran into MCO when I panned around to see a Cathay 777 coming up quick! Anyways, she (lady's vioce  Smile ) flew right over me (I was on 5 mile final for 36R) and then looked like she was gonna go around,but ended up diving for the rw and they told me to go around (I don't think so). Very weird. Somebody @ Orlando approach was sleeping  Smile
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RE: Nearly Slammed Into 737 In Midair In FS2002

Wed Jul 24, 2002 9:29 am


B727-200, which spellchecker are you referring to? Is there actually a spellcheck program for all a.net forum messages? If so, well I never knew that, hehehe! And if it tells me to change my username to, ugh, Nightshirt, well then screw the spellchecker because I love my username just the way it is  Big thumbs up.


Anyway, I'm sure the folks at Microsoft are reading these messages and are scratching their heads like crazy! They also must be pretty embarassed that their ATC system is so pitiful. But hey, it's only a flight simulator after all. I guess as years go by and newer versions of FS come out, the ATC should become more and more accurate and careful in directing air traffic.
 
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RE: Nearly Slammed Into 737 In Midair In FS2002

Sat Jul 27, 2002 12:19 pm

This happend at about 3100 feet on approach to Gander. I guess ATC was a bit bored so they had us do some formation flying, as the A320 kept getting his turn instructions at almost the exact same time that i did. We flew like this for a good 2-3 minutes before i slowly passed him.

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