edlw
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Use Of Radioscanners In The US?

Wed Jan 01, 2003 12:00 am

Hello all,

just one or two questions for a friend of mine concerning the use of radioscanners in the US, especially near airports of course.

How are the official regulations (I think they are forbidden, aren't they?)
And how is it handled unofficial? Are they widely used in the spotter scene? Is there a big risk to get it confiscated if police controls you?

Thanks in advance & a Happy New Year 2003 to everyone!

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RE: Use Of Radioscanners In The US?

Wed Jan 01, 2003 12:32 am

There are no regulations that I know of. The last time I was questioned at the airport I had my scanner on and the cop didn't care.
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RE: Use Of Radioscanners In The US?

Wed Jan 01, 2003 1:23 am

The only restrictions are that the scanner cannot be able to pick up mobile phone frequencies (which in the USA are still largely analog and non-encrypted).

Apart from that, there are no restrictions though police might be interested in why you have one if you are questioned as they seem to be associated with drug trafficing (criminals use them to monitor the whereabouts of police patrols).
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RE: Use Of Radioscanners In The US?

Wed Jan 01, 2003 2:56 am

OK, thanks. I think this helps.
I hope my friend has a small airbandscanner without the mentioned band of mobile phone - btw, can anybody tell me which frequency the mobile phones are using in the US?

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RE: Use Of Radioscanners In The US?

Wed Jan 01, 2003 3:37 am

806-956 MHz. I have two of the last models to be equiped with the mobile phone band, although if you look enough there are some new scanners that cover the 900MHz range, which is the 806-956, I believe.

Also, if someone tells me I must detroy these scanners because they can listen in on the guy yelling at his wife for cheating on him, or for the mother yelling at her kids to stop throwing things at the neighbors, then I'm going to tell you that you're full of crap.

Besides, there are fewer phone conversations to pick up on that frequency range. Why? Because probably like everywhere else, it's fashionable to get the newest cell phone, so new that the paint has practically not even dried on it yet, and all new phones are digital, so only a few convos can be picked up, mainly cordless phone conversations, like from the cordless phone in my house.
 
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RE: Use Of Radioscanners In The US?

Wed Jan 01, 2003 6:49 am

My Uniden Bearcat from '94 gets cell phone freq's,but it gets tiring listening to them as they fade in and out. Besides,alot of people went to dig phones.
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RE: Use Of Radioscanners In The US?

Thu Jan 02, 2003 2:53 pm

I have the Sporty's SP-200 NAV/COM and you can listen, transmit, and also pickup VORs and localizers. Its a handy tool to have inflight incase of radio failure.
Tell your freind not to worry about using them.
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RE: Use Of Radioscanners In The US?

Thu Jan 02, 2003 11:01 pm

I also agree that an aviation nav/com like Sporty's sells is a great idea if you plan on flying in actual. As far as picking up phone conversations, I had a cordless phone (a Vtech) in college a year ago that depending on where I stood in my house I could hear different neighbors on their phones while I was talking on mine. It was pretty funny some of the stuff I heard while I was just talking to my friends. I wouldn't worry too much about having a scanner.
 
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RE: Use Of Radioscanners In The US?

Fri Jan 03, 2003 6:01 pm

My older Radio Shack scanner picks up cell phones and cordless (lower bands) phones.. I've sat in the terminal before waiting to catch my flight listening to ATC nobody even approached me... Just had to turn it on and back off for security though (like they do with laptops)..
 
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RE: Use Of Radioscanners In The US?

Sat Jan 04, 2003 2:32 pm

There are no federal regulations other than the ECPA (Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986) rules requiring all new scanners sold in the US since 1986 to have the cellular portions of the 800 band blocked out. It's not illegal to own a scanner made prior to that time which is unblocked. It is illegal to listen to cell or cordless phone conversations.

There are some state restrictions. Michigan, Indiana, New York, and Kentucky (to name a few) have laws forbidding the use of a scanner in a vehicle. Kentucky and Indiana tend to be the strictest. (you pretty much can't have one outside of your home) In most states you'll be OK.
 
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RE: Use Of Radioscanners In The US?

Sun Jan 05, 2003 3:50 am

Most of the restrictions in place have to do with intercepting public safety radio messages. Some areas have made it illegal to have a scanner in your car because some morons will just chase police/ambulance/fire calls. One thing for the press to do that, another for the guy who just gets in the way. (and they do.....)

 
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RE: Use Of Radioscanners In The US?

Mon Jan 06, 2003 8:24 am

in GA at least, the law is that you cannot do anything to the scanner that would allow it to pick up cell phone broadcasts.... it is legal to listen if you "inadvertaly" (however its spelled... you know what i mean) recieve it... that is what i believe
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RE: Use Of Radioscanners In The US?

Tue Jan 07, 2003 8:31 am

I was told, and the manual for the scanner I own confirms, that there is no law against listening to cordless phone conversations. It is strictly forbidden to listen to cellular phone conversations, and that is listed multiple times in the pages of the manual, but not once does it mention cordless phones.

A quick glance at the Scanner Laws webpage... confirms this... It is illegal to listen to cell phone conversations, but cordless phone conversations are ok... as long as you don't record them without telling both parties.


That page should have all the information you need about scanner laws, both federal, and in each state.

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