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What Ever Happend To FS Concorde?

Thu Aug 14, 2003 2:14 pm

Why did the Concorde dissapear from FS2002, and especially from FS2004, its a Century of Flight correct? Was supersonic travel not important in the history of aviation? Why has it left the FS Series?
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roadrunner165
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RE: What Ever Happend To FS Concorde?

Thu Aug 14, 2003 3:52 pm

It was un-Popular and complicated to fly (Or so I hear)



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RE: What Ever Happend To FS Concorde?

Thu Aug 14, 2003 4:19 pm

And also something about paying BA too much to use their aircraft.

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RE: What Ever Happend To FS Concorde?

Thu Aug 14, 2003 5:34 pm

Sure as hell was complicated to fly! It was hard to takeoff if you didn't know what you were doing.
 
suspen
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RE: What Ever Happend To FS Concorde?

Thu Aug 14, 2003 7:27 pm

The 2004 configs still have Concorde specific commands in them...
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jwenting
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RE: What Ever Happend To FS Concorde?

Fri Aug 15, 2003 2:28 am

yes. It was removed because it wasn't popular with users.
Too hard to fly, too easy to crash.
And updating it to FS2002 would have cost too much time that was considered better spent on other things (like the new Caravans which are extremely popular and rightly so).
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planesarecool
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RE: What Ever Happend To FS Concorde?

Sat Aug 16, 2003 1:11 am

I could never take off on the runway with it. I would always go about half a mile off the end. I love flying the Baron 58 in FS2004
 
Danny
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RE: What Ever Happend To FS Concorde?

Mon Aug 18, 2003 11:08 pm

Removed because it was too difficult?? Are you serious?? Why do thousands of people buy add-on planes like DF737, PMDG PSS etc??

It is not a Quake! Planes should be real and complicated but MS is going rather "game way" in FS2004 rather than "simulation way"

Anyway I think Concorde was removed as it is british and french cnstruction nit an american one.

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zrb2
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RE: What Ever Happend To FS Concorde?

Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:53 am

Nah, the British/French thing is silly. It really was a pain to fly for casual users. You had to know how to set the nose and flaps correctly for takeoff and once it got up to full speed (and overspeed) it seemed to shake and shimmy alot. It was a fun novelty to have but I play the game ALOT and I hardly flew it. I'm sure plenty of other people were the same way. I did love that panel though!
 
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RE: What Ever Happend To FS Concorde?

Tue Aug 26, 2003 3:38 pm

Zrb2,
The shake and shimmy at overspeed is called realism...believe me the real concorde shakes and shimmies as it hits the Transonic region.
I FS a lot and have sourced a number of Concorde models to replace the FS2000 one which has been omitted, thus far the French Projet Mach2 model has proven to be the best although you can't change the tail number from G-BOAD.

I agree with Danny, I think Microsoft removed Concorde because of its Anglo/French origins and the fact that Boeing (also from Seattle) probably spat their dummy out at a mutually attended event. It could have been left in for the enthusiasts rather than the casual flyers, who never progress beyond prop-driven simming, especially in a product which claims to be a celebration of "A Century of Flight".

There is apparently a collection of BA liveried planes available for FS2004 (at $19.95) though I haven't tried these yet.
 
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RE: What Ever Happend To FS Concorde?

Wed Aug 27, 2003 1:03 am

Project Mach2's, Concorde is top notch. One thing that always bothered me was that all the repaints were HUGE the smallest one is like 8meg. (Not everyone has DSL)

The Concorde from FS2000 wouldn't work in FS2004. It was built with FSDS1, so the gear, Nose, and Ailerons will not work.
FS2004 only supports Gmax and FSDS2.

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