na
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Mistakes On Herpa Wings Models

Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:00 pm

The 1:500 new generation models of Herpa wings are a huge step forward over the old models that couldn´t decide whether they were still toys or already high-quality collectors items.

But there are still mistakes on some new models:

-The 747-400 in JAL livery has the upper deck window configuration of the -400D version. The Herpa controller must have been asleep when he was supposed to sign it off. A quick look at the box its packed in would have made him aware.
-The wings are painted in different colours on almost each model. Why?
-The tail of the Swissair 747-200 is painted in a lot darker shade of red than the cheatline.
The tail of the new 744-Northwest "worldplane"-model is a lot darker than the red of the "normal" Northwest 744.
The grey underside on the LH 340-300 isn´t right. It must be painted at different heights in front and in the back of the wing. Hope they get it right on the A340-600 coming.
The silver fuselage colour of the Virgin A340-600 seems wrong to me. Too yellowish at least on the single model I saw so far.

These are just some comments about models I wanted to buy but didn´t because of these quality problems.
 
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RE: Mistakes On Herpa Wings Models

Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:22 pm

Not to forget the wrongly shaped front of the A319/320/321-models...
 
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RE: Mistakes On Herpa Wings Models

Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:12 am

All their gears are completely wrong  Smile
The 747-400 combi in KLM livery has the registration of a full-pax model.

after seeing that I never looked at them again... They're supposed to be experts, they should at least get that right.
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RE: Mistakes On Herpa Wings Models

Tue Aug 26, 2003 6:04 am

Gear are wrong? Have you seen the new generation landing gear?
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RE: Mistakes On Herpa Wings Models

Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:43 am

I don't collect 1:500, only 1:200 and 1:400, but I have also had some dissapointments with Herpa in the 1:200 scale.

Their Korean Air 777-200 "World Cup" has the same registration as their regular Korean Air release, and that aircraft wasn't the one that had the 2002 World Cup markings.

And the most dissapointing thing about Herpa for me is the cheatline issue in their Premiums. Some of the most realistic and detailed models ever, and I would even venture to say perfect....if it wasn't for the "sandwich effect" in these models.
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RE: Mistakes On Herpa Wings Models

Sun Aug 31, 2003 11:57 pm

Jwenting,

What model are you talking about? I'm not aware of a 747-400 combi model of the KLM made by Herpa. Do you have the item number?
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na
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RE: Mistakes On Herpa Wings Models

Tue Sep 02, 2003 7:47 pm

Sandwich effect? What do you mean by that, Pl4nekr4zy?

 
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RE: Mistakes On Herpa Wings Models

Tue Sep 02, 2003 9:41 pm

KLM Combi:

KLM Combi
 
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RE: Mistakes On Herpa Wings Models

Wed Sep 03, 2003 1:16 am

Som of those nose gears on the newer 777s look very strange. Im still deciding If I want to get any of them.
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RE: Mistakes On Herpa Wings Models

Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:28 am

The 1:200 Bmi A330 is also the wrong shade of Blue, and the metallic "bmi" on the front is not the right colour either and does not have the metallic effect.

I was going to get it, but when I actually saw it with my own eyes I couldn't believe how bad it looked - especially as it was alongside a StarJets 1:200 A320 that was in the right colours and had the metallic effect "bmi". The StarJets A320 won and now lives in my display cabinet !.

I have however just bought the Herpa 1:200 Bmi Baby B733 G-ECAS. That looks pretty good I must say.

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RE: Mistakes On Herpa Wings Models

Wed Sep 03, 2003 9:02 am

Na:
Herpa Premiums models originated from the Lufthansa Modell Edition. These were limited edition models produced by Herpa in the late '80's for Lufthansa. Lufthansa wanted these models to be the absolute most detailed and accurate models ever in the 1:200 scale (and they were).

So what does this have to do with the sandwich effect?

When Herpa produced these models, they wanted a perfect, crisp cheatline for the Lufthansa livery of the time, so they designed the fuselage mold in 3 pieces. The top would be molded in white, the middle section with the windows would be blue, and the bottom molded in gray. By combining these three pieces, they achieved a crisp cheatline. However, when Herpa released the Premium Series which included liveries that were all white, they used the molds from the Lufthansa Modell Edition. The result was the "sandwich effect" of 3 pieces molded in the same color coming together. Molded as one piece, the models would look much better. But, from a distance, it is hardly noticeable. The 747 is molded in 2 pieces, so there isn't really a problem with the sandwich effect there.

All that said, Premiums are still beautiful, high quality models, and most people can look past the sandwich effect. I hope Herpa will one day develop new molds for use on liveries with a solid color fuselage, but I understand the molds are very expensive to develop.

Take a look at these pictures, they show the sandwich effect pretty clearly.
http://home.villagephotos.com/2003-9/23061/HerpaPremiumThaiA300.jpg

Well, I hope I answered your question thoroughly  Big grin

Let me know if you want any more info or pics of different Premiums.
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RE: Mistakes On Herpa Wings Models

Sat Sep 13, 2003 5:14 am

The New Generation models seem to be more mistake-free than the older ones. I own 4 Herpa Wings models (2 "old generation", 2 "New Generation"), and the two old generation models have mistakes, while only one of the new generation has a mistake. My DL MD-88 has a nose gear as big as the main gear, and my DL MD-11 is the wrong shade of blue on the nose, and the winglets are too small. For the new generation, on my DL 767-400, the Delta widget is too narrow. I'm not that much of a Herpa Wings fan, I prefer Dragon Wings myself (they seem to be mistake free, at least on the models I've bought).
 
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RE: Mistakes On Herpa Wings Models

Sat Sep 13, 2003 2:25 pm

this site does heaps of reviews and stuff on herpa models..

10/10 for the site

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