cramos
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I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Sat Sep 27, 2003 8:41 pm

Does anyone know how the CH Products flight sim yoke is like? I have a Sidewinder force feedback (first version). I'm considering going for the yoke/pedal combinations. Will I be losing something if I abandon the force feedback in favor of the flight sim yoke feel? How has everyone's experience been when it comes to yokes and what yoke would one recommend?

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Sat Sep 27, 2003 9:25 pm

I've been looking at the CH Yoke for about a year now and never got round to buying it. Here's their website:

http://www.chproducts.com

I'd really like one. I think they'd add much more realism to FS. If you do a search in the Aviation Hobby forum, you'll find lots of posts on which yoke is better. Obviously the better ones will cost more.

Good luck.

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Sun Sep 28, 2003 12:44 am

The CH Products Flight Yoke is probably the best all around flight yoke you can find for Flight Simulator unless you want to spend about a $1000 on a professionally designed one with a bunch of features.

I have a CH Flight Yoke USB and I am very happy with it. Works flawlessly and makes flying large airliners such as the 777 and 747 much more realistic.

I highly recommend you get it. Right now I believe it's bundled with IL-2 Sturmovik which is currently the best WWII fighter simulation available.

In regards to Force Feedback. The only force feedback I have is Sidewinder Force Feedback wheel for racing games. My joystick is a Sidewinder Precision Pro which is not force feedback.

In my opinion force feedback is not that important as the forces seem to be exaggerated. It's also not realistic that you only have the stick shaking while in real life while you are rolling down the runway, the whole aircraft is shaking. But that's just my opinion.

I think you'll be fine if you move to a Flight Yoke which isn't force feedback. You won't feel vibrations and shakes anymore, but in time you won't care.

If you use Flight Simulator a lot, and fly mostly large airliners then I highly recommend a Flight Yoke. It's simply more realistic. You have much more control over the plane with a flight yoke.

I never bought the CH Pedals as I am using my Sidewinder racing wheel's gas/brake pedals as rudder pedals and it works just fine. I heard the CH Pedals are also very good, I just don't have any experience with them.

Let me know if you have anymore questions.

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Sun Sep 28, 2003 12:55 am

I'd love to get the flight yoke, but I expect it to be really cheap and plasticy, and when you move it about it makes a lot of noise. Like it's not smooth to move  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Sun Sep 28, 2003 10:02 am

I own the CH USB yoke and have to say I've been pleased with it since I bought it last Christmas. It's comfortable to use, has LOTS of buttons, and is very easy to install and set up. The only drawbacks are its cheap plastic body (I get paranoid that I'll strip the mounting knobs out every time I tighten them), and it is a little noisy at times (springs and such inside it). But for only $100 you can't beat its value! I'd definitely recommend it as an alternative to the $1000 professional models. Don't have MSFS or the like, but it works perfectly with X-Plane. Hope this helps!
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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Thu Oct 02, 2003 5:51 am

Any other alternatives to the CH USB yoke? Does it really feel like light plastic though or does it just look that way? I really want to make a good investment, so I want something durable with a realistic feel.

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Thu Oct 02, 2003 7:38 am

Cramos,

I don't know of any other alternatives that are still in production.

The CH USB flight yoke isn't cheapo. Yes it's plastic, so are most joysticks, steering wheels, etc.

If you want a 100% realistic feel, get your pilot's license, buy a plane and fly.  Smile
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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Thu Oct 02, 2003 7:59 am

"If you want a 100% realistic feel, get your pilot's license..."

Well, I'd certainly prefer that to spending $1000 on a yoke.

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Thu Oct 02, 2003 9:42 am

Well, I'd certainly prefer that to spending $1000 on a yoke.

That's still not 100% realistic. In order to experience 100% realism, you need to do it in reality.  Smile

A $1000 yoke surely is more realistic than a $100 CH Flight Yoke USB, but still not 100% realistic.
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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Thu Oct 02, 2003 12:28 pm

"That's still not 100% realistic. In order to experience 100% realism, you need to do it in reality."

Isn't that what I just said? In fact, I have $1000, and I'm spending it on my CFII training.

Happy?

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Thu Oct 02, 2003 1:06 pm

Isn't that what I just said? In fact, I have $1000, and I'm spending it on my CFII training.

Happy?


There is no need for an attitude buddy. I just misunderstood you.

Sheesh....
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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Fri Oct 03, 2003 10:43 am

BA, you mentioned $1000 professional models. Are those also CH brand or are there others?

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Fri Oct 03, 2003 11:37 am

Are those also CH brand or are there others?

No, they are other brands. I think one brand is GoFlight.

I'll double check though.

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:21 pm

I didn't want to spend 1000 either. I just wanted to know of other companies in the same price range as CH products for comparison shopping. 1000 would be too much for a control in my oppinion. Say 'Speed, I haven't seen many posts from you lately, it's good to hear from you again. Do you have one of these yokes by the way?

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:05 am

Cramos,

It sounds like you are hesitent about getting the CH Flight Yoke USB.

What are you looking for in a yoke so I can see if you'd be satisfied or disappointed?

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:09 pm

N243NW said the following:

The only drawbacks are its cheap plastic body (I get paranoid that I'll strip the mounting knobs out every time I tighten them)

I want a controller that will stay in its place so that I don't have to constantly adjust it.

I understand that almost any controller that one buys will be plastic. My sidewinder forcefeedback is plastic. I'm just looking for quality. I will not be hard on the flight controller. I'm just looking for a nice controller that will make for a rewarding flight sim session. Many talk about CH and it's had good ratings at flightsim.com and I'd like comments from others who have had the controller themselves. If CH is the way to go, then I'll go with it. By the way, would they offer a "value" package in which I get rudder pedals from them as well or do I have to get them seperately? I haven't seen anything on their website about it.

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:55 am

I want a controller that will stay in its place so that I don't have to constantly adjust it.

It won't move around at all. It has 2 screw mounts and they are very good. That's certainly not the issue. All N243NW was saying was it's plastic (which it is) although I wouldn't call it a "cheap" plastic body. It's plastic quality is like any other joystick. I tighten the mounting knobs until they just don't move at all. No worries about breaking them.

The quality is like your typical joystick. No better no worse.

And no there is no value package. So if you want the rudders you'll have to buy them separately.

Do you have a steering wheel with gas/brake pedals? If you do, then you don't need to buy rudder pedals. The gas/brake pedals can be used just like rudder pedals. That's what I'm doing since I have a Sidewinder Force Feedback Wheel.

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:48 am

So the plastic is like a Sidewinder joystick then. That's fine with me. I guess I'll have to buy each thing seperately too. Thanks for the help there BA. By the way, how do you get the flags next to your profile there? I haven't seen that much on Airliners.net.

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Sun Oct 05, 2003 12:21 pm

Cramos,

Yeah, the plastic is like a Sidewinder joystick. Not any worse.

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RE: I'm Looking For A Good Flight Sim Yoke

Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:01 pm

Go with the yoke and peddles, i have both in USB format. They are truly good and ya you loose a little in the force feedback but when flying in 2004, its pretty good.

I got mine here, http://www.thresholdaviation.com check it out!

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