beowulf
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Joystick For FS

Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:15 pm

Hi,

My old joystick, a Logitech Wingman Force Feedback, broke and I am now due to get a replacement, i.e., the same, or I may invest into a Saitek Cyborg Force Feedback http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/cyborg_force.htm for whooping EUR 15,--.

The Logitech was all right. Anyone with experience about the Saitek? BTW, it's for FS, no combat things.  Wink/being sarcastic

Any recommendations?

Nick
 
NAV20
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RE: Joystick For FS

Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:27 pm

I like the Logitech myself, Beowulf - mine hasn't broken yet! The only thing I don't like about it is its sheer SIZE!

A friend swears by the Microsoft force feedback one - I've tried it, and it seems to have about the same performance. It's more compact, but a lot more expensive in the stores here.
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beowulf
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RE: Joystick For FS

Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:02 am

Hi,

I've had the Logitech for about 1.5 years and the trouble was that turning the joystick to operate the rudder did not work anymore, i.e., I couldn't turn left all the way, and it didn't center anymore. Calibrated it several times and finally returned it. Logitech credited the dealer and the dealer told me I can have the same model again or get a new one, i.e., the Saitek.

Besides having to pay EUR 15,-- for the Saitek (O.K., that's not a lot) I would get a brand new guarantee for the Saitek. For the Logitech my old guarantee would continue, another six months.

I will take a look at the Saitek to see how it is IRL. Is anybody using the Saitek Cyborg Force Feedback and could comment on how it is?

My impression with the Logitech has been that it's hard to develop an actual feeling for the a/c and to get it to work subtle. How do you handle this, NAV20?

Nick
 
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RE: Joystick For FS

Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:29 am

Now you mention it, Beowulf, I had a bit of the same trouble with the rudder function a few months ago. It wouldn't go all the way in one direction when I tried to calibrate it.

I found a 'crude' solution - I levered the rubber surround away from the stick and squirted about a gallon (3.7854 litres  Smile) of WD40 penetrating lubricant into the works in the stick base. I guess I frightened the pants off the thing, it's worked fine ever since!

On the sensitivity question, I've learned to keep all the settings at the default (60%) level or below. And to use a very light touch and small movements; same as you have to on a real aeroplane. On not very much experience of the Microsoft stick, I'd say the Logitech one has the better 'feel' of the two.

No idea about the Saitek, though; I hope someone else can help you.
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beowulf
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RE: Joystick For FS

Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:03 am

Hi,

I can only recommend the Saitek Cyborg Force Feedback joystick. It's much better than the Logitech. Very precise steering is possible with this tool.

Nick
 
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RE: Joystick For FS

Sun Sep 19, 2004 12:27 am

Hi Nick,
I currently own the Saitek X45 flight stick:

http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/x45.htm

and I have yet to have problems with it. It works wonderfully well, and you have plenty of buttons and so on to customize your FS commands. I would recommend that one!

Sebastian
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RE: Joystick For FS

Sun Sep 19, 2004 12:38 am

I have some cheap end Logitec joystick now and I absolutly hate it. Every time I fly I have to recalibrate it. The next joystick I'll be going for is a Sidewinder, because I loved my old one so much. It worked excellently, and I never had to recalibrate it.
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RE: Joystick For FS

Sun Sep 19, 2004 2:51 am

I also have the X45, and I love it! The top wheel on the throttle can be used for the rudder as well, so I taxi better with that Big grin It's also my first joystick!
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beowulf
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RE: Joystick For FS

Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:17 am

The Saitek X45 sure looks interesting. Anyway, I went for the Saitek Cyborg Force Feedback, and I love it. It's much, much better than my old Logitech Wingman.  Smile

Nick

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