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Geforce Users - The Answer To Better Frame-rates?

Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:21 pm

I thought it was worth passing this on. NVIDIA have brought out a better driver, which they claim sorts out 'anomalies' with FS2004 (NOW they tell us  Smile). I just downloaded the update and can't believe the results. With the target frame-rate set at 'unlimited' I was getting framerates in the high twenties even in ten/tenths cloud. In clear weather the 'record' was 37. And I only have the MX400.......

Available from here if you're interested. Hope it does the same for you.

http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
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RE: Geforce Users - The Answer To Better Frame-rates?

Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:41 pm

Is it the 61.77 version?
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RE: Geforce Users - The Answer To Better Frame-rates?

Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:20 pm

Hmm, I downloaded and installed the new driver and tested FS out but I didn't really see any great improvements, except maybe when I was in flight with relatively light clouds. At airports and with heavy cloud I was only getting frame rates in the teens.

Do I have to do anything other than just install the driver? What are your other FS graphics settings?

Thanks,

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RE: Geforce Users - The Answer To Better Frame-rates?

Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:42 am

Hope it helps a bit, anyway, Q330.

I don’t do anything special on ‘Settings’, mainly because nothing I do seems to make much difference! So I leave most of them at ‘default’ – the exceptions being the resolution (I use 1024X768) and the frame-rate (I set that at ‘unlimited’ by moving the slider all the way to the right – can’t see the point of pegging the rate). 'Realism' set to 'Hard'.

Your comment gave me the idea of some research into whether different aeroplanes present different frame-rates. When I first noticed the improvement I was ‘flying’ a B25. This is a model of an actual Mitchell that is still flying at the Mid-Atlantic Air Museum in Pennsylvania. It is the most exquisitely detailed model I’ve seen, and is usually pretty ‘hungry’ for frames:-

http://virtual.planepictures.net/show.cgi?35295

I called up a practice landing approach I keep saved, which has pretty cloudy weather, and tried the Mitchell out. Not bad – rates in the range 18-26. Then I switched in flight to another favourite, a Comet 4 – and got 23-27. Then to a VC10, not so good here, high teens-early twenties.

Finally I switched back to the original aeroplane, the FS default 737. This was the result!



Maybe we can set up a competition – can anybody beat a frame-rate of 47.9 in cloudy weather?  Smile

From all this I conclude that the frame-rates you get seem to be very much dependent on which aeroplane you are using, and the skill of the designer. Makes sense really – it looks as if the game takes whatever resources it needs to run a given model (highly detailed designs/panels presumably needing more) and what is left over determines the frame-rate. The default aeroplanes are pretty simple designs and therefore achieve higher frame-rates.

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RE: Geforce Users - The Answer To Better Frame-rates?

Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:37 am

Hey NAV20, thanks for your reply. I currently have my 'global scenery quality' on ultra high so maybe that's what's slowing it down a bit. I just tested it on medium high and I was getting frames around 20 at busy YSSY. Out of curiosity, what is your global scenery quality slider set to?

Yes, the default aircraft are certainly pretty easy on frames, but they're hard on the eyes!  Laugh out loud

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RE: Geforce Users - The Answer To Better Frame-rates?

Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:20 pm


I got a slight improvement with my FX5200 - mostly through the elimination of some bugs that were there.

- I could not 'grab' and rotate the aircraft manually in the 'Select Aircraft' screen
- Foggy conditions would usually result in almost a white wall about 1NM from the aircraft (could be fixed by toggling between wondow and full-screen modes)
- Occasional flickering would occur, particularly when the ATC window was open

The driver update seems to have fixed these. I have noticed slightly better performance in general scenery, but clouds still bring things to a halt.
 
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RE: Geforce Users - The Answer To Better Frame-rates?

Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:25 pm

Yes, B727-200, clouds are a problem - especially the 'fluffy' cumulus stuff. Doesn't help that the 'real weather' everywhere seems to be uniformly lousy at the moment. If I get really bad problems at key times (like taking off or landing) I have taken to pressing 'Alt/Enter' and reverting to the smaller screen for a while. That helps the frame-rate a lot, but of course spoils the 'look'.

Glad the new driver seemed to sort some problems out for you. You do wonder, though - presumably they knew for ages that their cards had bugs when used for FS2004, but went on selling them to us mugs.......

Q330, yes, my global scenery is set to 'Medium High', which is the default on my computer.
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RE: Geforce Users - The Answer To Better Frame-rates?

Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:14 pm

I'm afraid that there may be a problem.

I just tried to run FS2002 - not only would it not run, clicking on the desktop icon crashed my system and I had to do a 'registry restore' to get the thing out of Safe Mode. I uninstalled FS2002 and re-installed it, but the same thing happened.

This doesn't bother me as I can do without FS2002, and almost never use it. In any case, it may be some other problem, unconnected with the new driver. But it's only fair to say that, if you want to keep both games, it might be best not to try the new driver.
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RE: Geforce Users - The Answer To Better Frame-rates?

Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:25 pm

I have a problem with the new driver. I installed the new driver & everything was ok for a while(about an hour). Then I started to have problems with the panel, the panel now fills up almost the whole screen (640 size mode?). I usually use 1024x768x16 screen size. I rolled back the driver & every thing was OK, then I reinstalled the new driver, same problem again.

Can anyone think what is causing this problem? Is there anything I need to edit in the FS9.cfg file?

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RE: Geforce Users - The Answer To Better Frame-rates?

Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:02 pm

Haven't had any problems this end, 'Ned'.

One thing, though - set the 1024X768 resolution on the game settings page, not on the driver control panel. I had a 'crashing' problem with the GeForce card when I first got it, because I changed its settings - it's best to leave it at the defaults it sets for itself and just change the game settings.

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RE: Geforce Users - The Answer To Better Frame-rates?

Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:24 pm

Nav20,

Thanks for that tip. I will try that when I get home. Another thing to add, it is only the panel that I am having the problem with, all the other views are OK & are dispaying at 1024x768. I also only have this problem when operating in full screen mode, when I have the menu bar displayed whilst flying (ALT+Enter), the panel is OK.

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