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FlightSafety Sim VS MS Flight Sim

Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:09 pm

Hey all,

for the last year or more, I've been helping promote Frolov's Dash8-Q300 for people who wanted a nice, realistic, free addon.
I used it quite a bit as the Dash8-Q300 is the dominant regional aircraft here in the Caribbean.

Well a couple months ago, I got hired by one of those same airlines, and I'm now a Dash8 rated pilot.

I just want to share a few things.
Scan Scan Scan!! it really helped using the Frolov dash8. Although Frolov's panel is for the left seat and I fly right, the layout of the flight instruments are basically the same.......and it doesn't take much to switch scans from left to right for the engine instruments.

When I sat in the sim at FlightSafety, Toronto, last month, nothing was a shock. I was already aware of the location and function of some/most of the overhead switches, as well as the glareshield and instrument panel.

Now that I'm back home and awaiting my Base and Line checks, it's easy for me to plug in all that I've learnt on the real sim, into flight sim and practice my instrument procedures.
My only gripe is that both my force feedback sidewinder and my mouse are right handed, so sometimes I have to pause to select heading, start clock etc....but no challenge there.

so I just thought I'd contribute that here for those who ever wondered how Microsoft Flight Sim compares to FlightSafety's simulators  Smile
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RE: FlightSafety Sim VS MS Flight Sim

Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:52 pm

So MS flight sim is quite simalr to real life? I know it is nothing compared to the real thing but it sounds like it has helped you in cockpit familiarisation.
 
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RE: FlightSafety Sim VS MS Flight Sim

Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:44 am

Thats great news. I love the Dash-8-300QX. I have Dash-8 pro. Fly that plane all the time. Great to here that FS is that real. Have fun flying the real thing! Hope to be doing the same in 10 years!
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RE: FlightSafety Sim VS MS Flight Sim

Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:36 am

thanks guys

yes, cockpit familiarisation.
by the time I got in the seat for the first session, I already knew where everything was.
flight/engine instruments and overhead panel that is.
I still think the intercom switches are a bitch to operate though :p

the only thing with home sims is that you can't really replicate the weight of the plane and the motions, but the plane maneuvers and the speeds are all the same.

for a 40,000lb take off, you can use flap 5, Vr 114
and landing, flap 15, Vref 122

Flymia, in 10 years you'll be way ahead of the already aging dash8, but it's nice to know you aspire to fly it. It's a really sweet airplane....one of the last few planes that you fly...it doesn't fly you.

all the best.
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RE: FlightSafety Sim VS MS Flight Sim

Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:26 am

Well Inbound I am only 15 so if I get a commercial job at 25 that would be awesome!
How many hours you have when you started with the airline? You are from Canada are you? With your airline do you need to be a citizent of that country? And hold there ratings of that country? Since I am from the USA.
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RE: FlightSafety Sim VS MS Flight Sim

Fri Oct 22, 2004 5:19 am

Hey man u got a link for that Dash-8 addon?
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RE: FlightSafety Sim VS MS Flight Sim

Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:39 am

Hey CVG, avsim.com doesn't seem to link their files, but just go to file library and do a search for "Frolov".....if this comes up :

"Category: Flight Simulator 2004 - Original Aircraft
Dash 8 Q300 Update 1.004B


Other files which are related to, or may be required by, this file:


Dash 8 Q300 Update 1.004B (Download #37657)
Dash 8Q-300 Aircraft Package v1.004 (Download #26699) "

download it.....and then add whatever other liveries you need.

Flymia, I don't live in canada, I live in Trinidad, an island in the caribbean. I did my flight training in canada though, and FlightSafety's dash8 simulator is located in toronto coincidentally.

To be quite honest, I only have about 400 hours, but this is how it is in the caribbean, and from what I hear...europe as well. People can go from flight school into regional airlines simply because use for small planes don't exist in this part of the world because of the amount of water to cross.

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RE: FlightSafety Sim VS MS Flight Sim

Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:15 pm

When took my private pilot flight training, I had a real problem keeping my eyes outside the aircraft because I had spent so much time on FS and got used to scanning the instruments.

My instructor eventually ended up covering the instruments forcing me to look out and fly the plane visually.

I feel that FS really benefited my flight training. Before every real flight I would fly the entire syallabus for the day in FS. It helped me identify procedures and problem areas on the ground instead of up in the air.
 
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RE: FlightSafety Sim VS MS Flight Sim

Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:40 am

Could a US citizent get a job for your airline with a US Multi Commercial license. Your right 400 hours is very little for the US but a good amount for Europe and other places. 400 hours cant get you a job flying cargo on a C310.
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