ua777222
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I Need Help! Flight Sim's For Mac's!

Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:09 am

Hello all!

I have been very pleased with the amount of experience those in the FS world have and share here daily. The screenshot threads are amazing and will always be my favorite.

I have come in search of advice. I am getting ready to buy a new computer. I am a Mac guy currently running a 12" Powerbook G4. Well having had it for close to a year and a half and 2 HD failures later I have opted for a new desktop and will just use my laptop as a school use only computer. I am looking at getting a Powermac G5. Can someone here who knows a thing or two about computers please advise me as to what would be the best config. for this for both general use, photo editing, and flight sim. Secondly, can someone put together a goodie list of add-on's and flight sim products that would best work my need. Price range? Ummmmm reasonable. I'll spend 4k max on my computer and possibly another thousand on fs gear. I currently have the CH products that will work fine, I hope.

Any help would be fantastic!

Thanks,

Matt
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RE: I Need Help! Flight Sim's For Mac's!

Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:37 pm

you are getting a power mac? I am sure that is great, but if you want to flight sim, get a windows based system. Much cheaper and so much more add-ons. I think x-plane is all you get for mac, someone else might know better. MSFS is only for windows. Also keep in mind that all the live atc, live wheater and so on out there is made for MS FS. If you really want to get into the big world of flightsim, get microsoft.
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RE: I Need Help! Flight Sim's For Mac's!

Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:37 pm

I've really had some issues with PC's and seeing as FS is not my main motivation to buy a new computer I'm going to stick with my mac's. X-plane looks like a cool system. I am almost positive that there are plenty of add-on's for x-plane and related systems. As for 3rd party devices, we'll just have to see.

Thanks,

Matt
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RE: I Need Help! Flight Sim's For Mac's!

Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:26 am

If you want to flight sim then you have to get a windows, the rest than get a mac. Mac is horrible when it comes to games. If it wasn't for games I would have swiched long time ago.
 
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RE: I Need Help! Flight Sim's For Mac's!

Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:10 am

But my main motivation is not for FS. So I thought that getting the FS would help. I'm not going to lay down 3700 for a computer then another 1000 for a flight sim only computer...

Thanks for the help,

Matt

PS No X-Plane guys here?
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RE: I Need Help! Flight Sim's For Mac's!

Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:35 am

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 4):
PS No X-Plane guys here?

I used X-plane a few years ago, back before my jump to PC. I really don't have anything against X-plane, except for the total lack of scenery on the ground, including airport buildings. Instead of terminals, you get large parking lots. I have noticed, though, that the flight dynamics are very good. I used X-plane to learn to fly simulators, and improve my flying skills. I haven't played it in a while, though.

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RE: I Need Help! Flight Sim's For Mac's!

Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:36 am

Quoting Ua777222 (Thread starter):
Any help would be fantastic!

My family used to have all Macs, and when my dad had a Mac catalog of software, I always saw this product called "Virtual PC". What it does is allow you to run a Windows operating system on your Mac, so presumably, if that is still available, you should be able to use PC software (MSFS) on your Mac!

Hope I am of help...
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RE: I Need Help! Flight Sim's For Mac's!

Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:49 am

Quoting San747 (Reply 6):
My family used to have all Macs, and when my dad had a Mac catalog of software, I always saw this product called "Virtual PC". What it does is allow you to run a Windows operating system on your Mac, so presumably, if that is still available, you should be able to use PC software (MSFS) on your Mac!

IIRC, the Virtual PC eats up memory, and running FS would result in very poor frame rates and graphics. If you want to run MSFS, just get a PC. Otherwise you have X-plane.

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RE: I Need Help! Flight Sim's For Mac's!

Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:16 pm

Hey Matt,


Forget everything these yahoos are telling you. They are MS drones who haven't a clue about macs. I'm a software consultant and my wife is a graphic designer so I know PC's and macs very well. Get the mac. Get mac office and you're good to go in terms of communicating with the PC world. As things get more and more web-based the platform becomes less important. Personally I use a PC because I have software that only runs on it. Otherwise I would slit Microsoft's throat for all the security holes and virus' associated with their software. But that's another story.

X-PLANE BEATS MSFS every day of the week in terms of realism in flight dynamics. Oh, did I mention I'm a private pilot as well? I use MSFS because of the add-ons and the pretty airports but I know its a waste in terms of sharpening any real flight skills. I do know some universities and others use x-plane and the poor-man's simulator so it has credibility in terms of giving you good flight dynamics.

My ideal situation would be to run a PC next to a mac mini with a switch for an LCD monitor but that's more $$$ I could use towards flight hours.
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RE: I Need Help! Flight Sim's For Mac's!

Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:46 pm

Quoting Airtahitinui (Reply 8):
Forget everything these yahoos are telling you. They are MS drones who haven't a clue about macs.

 rotfl 
Aren't you just talking with two tongues here!! No one here said anything bad about MACs, all we said was that from a simmers point of view he would be better of with a Windows based PC, you even said so your self. So get off your high horse saying others are ignorant. You are not the only one who is a computer genius!!! and who cares about what your wife does for a living!!!

The original post never said that he really didn't care that much for simming, that came later. He asked for advice, not for you to judge others knowledge.

Sure X-plane is great, but all the add-ons are not geared to that marked.
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ua777222
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RE: I Need Help! Flight Sim's For Mac's!

Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:48 am

Thank you all for your help.

Dreamer vs. Airtahitinui Take the bickering out of the topic (for future). I was looking at Virtual PC and its running for about 250. My set up for my Powermac G5 will be the following;

• Dual 1.8GHz PowerPC G5
• 1GB DDR400 SDRAM (PC3200) - 2x512
• 80GB Serial ATA - 7200rpm
• NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra w/64MB DDR SDRAM
• Apple Cinema Display (20" flat panel)
• AirPort Extreme Card
• 56k V.92 internal modem
• 8x SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW)
• Bluetooth Module + Apple Wireless Keyboard & Mouse - U.S. English
• Mac OS X - U.S. English
• AppleCare Protection Plan for Power Mac (w/ or w/o Display)

If anyone can provide improvements and other helpful hints that would be great! This set up is running me 3700 w/o tax. I want to stay under 4k.

Thanks,

Matt
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RE: I Need Help! Flight Sim's For Mac's!

Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:29 am

I am an old X-plane user have had ver 5 6 7 and now 8.06, the sim is very good and nor the new 8.06 has the Md90 and the tristar in great detail and cockpits the software includes the 777 and 30 other planes and helicopters..
Its very good but in mu humble if you are going to buy a dual 1.8 order the best video card you can buy (radeon 9800 or better) since xplane relies a lot on video card for smooth and realistic operation, (check my thread about the 380 from CDF to JFK a few days ago on X-plane)

On monday Ill have an AMD 3800+939 with a Nvidia 6800Gt and lot of goodie sto play FS2004, I hope its certanlu better tahn X-plane because Ill cut my veins if my 1400usd$ are wasted...Ill let you know obout this but x-plane is very good and challenging to fly properly...
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RE: I Need Help! Flight Sim's For Mac's!

Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:45 am

SWEET!!!! FREE UPGRADE!!!

My new config is as follows;


• 1GB DDR400 SDRAM (PC3200) - 2x512
• Dual 2GHz PowerPC G5
• 160GB Serial ATA - 7200rpm
• ATI Radeon 9600 w/128MB DDR SDRAM
• Apple Cinema Display (20" flat panel)
• AirPort Extreme Card
• 16x SuperDrive double-layer (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
• Bluetooth Module + Apple Wireless Keyboard & Mouse - U.S. English
• Mac OS X - U.S. English
• AppleCare Protection Plan for Power Mac (w/ or w/o Display)

Thanks,

Matt!
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RE: I Need Help! Flight Sim's For Mac's!

Tue May 10, 2005 12:44 pm

Here is a screen shot from X-plane on the mac, entering Yosemite Valley from the North, with flaps all the way down the Fmc and autopilot engaged for a slow 175 knot flyby.....real cool

http://www.automania.com.mx/paginasextra/screenshot_10.JPG
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