gmonney
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FS For Dumbies

Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:44 pm

Hey guys,

I am just getting a new computer built so I can reallly get into flight sim. I see my buddies (one who is a pilot for AC ((767 F/O)) ) and they start up the aircraft.... almost anyone, imput a flight plan... take off and land like he was riding a bike....

I am looking to learn, I hear that an A320 add on has a tutorial, but why won't a company run a banner on the bottom of the screen with instructions on what to do.... Like how to start the aircraft, which valves to open... kind of FS for dumbies...!! Its really cool to see it done at my buddies aviation supply store... when i get home, all I can do is fly a 172 VFR... otherwise it doesn't seem real.... i used to have 2002 and when i would fly a 737 it was already started and didn't have any onboard computer....

Thanks in advance,

Grant
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goinv
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RE: FS For Dumbies

Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:03 pm

Were you walking at age 2 months or did it take a while?

I have been flight simming for six years and still learn new things.

If you can fly VFR in a Cessna, why not do the same in a 737? OK, its bigger and faster but at least you'll get the hang of the plane.

Personally, I would say Airbus aircraft are harder to fly than Boeings / Cessna's so I probably wouldn't try to learn from this at the beginning.

All MSFS default aircraft start with their engines running so you should have no problem having to start them.

The 2004 B737 is really the same as the 2002 version so you should be OK with that. Try the Flying Lessons in flight simulator to learn thing slowly.

Remember when you first learnt to walk. Take things a few steps at a time....

goinv
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gmonney
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RE: FS For Dumbies

Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:41 pm

Not the answer I am looking for...

I am not looking to be a pilot over night but if there was somewhere that could help you with just the start up and loading the flight plan in the FMS...

I have flown the 737 IFR with ATC, performend many ILS Landings, I just want to take it to the next step...

Thanks,

Grant
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Gofly
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RE: FS For Dumbies

Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:21 pm

I understand what you are trying to look for, however it may be difficult to find exactly what you want.

As far as I am aware, there are no tutorials that add a bar to the bottom of the screen. However there are hundreds that you can print off and follow. The problem is, they all relate to specific panels/aircraft.

If you want completely the real thing, with illustrated instructions, buy the Level D 767 or the PMDG 737. Then you can download a lesson. Although, funds may be an issue.

Otherwise, search www.avsim.com under "Flight Simulator 2004 - Miscellaneous Files" There are literally hundreds of tutorials there.

Another problem you may encounter, is that most freeware panels do not have FMC's. There are a few fairly complex ones that may do what you are looking for. However I don't know if any of them have tutorials written for them.

My apologies if I have been of no help what so ever! Big grin Happy flying!

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Arniepie
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RE: FS For Dumbies

Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:09 pm

Quoting Goinv (Reply 1):
Personally, I would say Airbus aircraft are harder to fly than Boeings / Cessna's

In MSFS the Aircraft make or model has nothing to do with its flightcharacteristics.
It all comes down to how the designer programmed its aircraft.cfg and aired files, basically you can make a 747 fly like a F-16 and vice versa if you just program it that way.

If you really want realistic flight characteristics then I suggest you go and have a look at the X-plane simulator.

Quoting Gofly (Reply 3):
If you want completely the real thing, with illustrated instructions, buy the Level D 767 or the PMDG 737

I agree but if you really want to bring things to the next level might I suggest the Tupolev154-project.
This is freeware and most payware packages don't even come close when you talk about realism ,realistic flightcharacteristics and a cockpit that has all the bells and whistles.
It has no FMC and other fancy computers simply because that's also how it is in reality.
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SA006
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RE: FS For Dumbies

Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:23 pm

ArniePie , do you have a link for the Tupolev 154 project? Sounds good...

Gmonney , if you're looking for realism , as gofly said there are many payware packages that are top notch. The new PMDG 747-400 Queen of the Skies , as to what I hear , has the best FMC.

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Arniepie
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RE: FS For Dumbies

Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:28 pm

Quoting SA006 (Reply 5):
ArniePie , do you have a link for the Tupolev 154 project? Sounds good...

I am certain the complete packages and repaints are available on AVSIM.com and Flightsim.com, also on Avsim.ru I believe.

Be prepared for a steep learning curve!!!
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yooyoo
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RE: FS For Dumbies

Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:28 pm

Level D 767 is the way to go. And you can get your buddy to be F/O for you.  Wink

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AirWillie6475
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RE: FS For Dumbies

Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:37 pm

I would suggest you to start learning all the auto-pilot functions of the aircraft if you want to fly big jets because that's all you will do, fly with the autopilot. You will save a lot of time learning how to fly the plane that way. What I do is when I get the clearance from ATC I put in the Altitude that I have to climb set the vertical speed, set the heading and after I take-off I just turn on the autopilot and the plane flies itself. After takeoff you set your navigation to GPS mode, then select NAV mode and the plane tracks your flight route and that's it all the way till the approach to landing where you just put in the ILS frequencies to the runway, switch NAV mode to GPS mode, capture the ILS and land the plane, thats it! It took me a while to learn all of this but that was the fun of FS.
 
gmonney
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RE: FS For Dumbies

Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:20 am

Thanks guys,

AirWillie6475, i have done that many times with the stock 737 that was with FS2002, I have watched my buddy fly the 767/A320 about 20 times but I obviously have never done it for myself... I think it would be a great idea if someone did make an on screen banner... and have the item that needs attention flash... I think (cause I live in yyz) I will get all of the loads and flight plans for YYZ-JFK (i also have airports 2 ((they used one of my pictures for an add)) ) and just fly that once i have learned the basics of setting it up...

Again guys,

Thanks!

G
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