mika
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A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:26 am

Just found this site through the avsim headlines page...check out how badly modeled many of these MSFS addon planes are, there are freeware versions avialable from other makers that by far succeed these payware ones.

http://abacuspub.com/airbus/A319_HC.jpg
Somethingt hat they claim is a A319. Look at the cockpit windows how large they are and the CFM engines...IFDG's A32x is worlds better modelled than this!


http://abacuspub.com/airbus/a310india.jpg
A310. The front section of the aircraft reminds me more of the B777 than the A310, the bulging shape of the upper first half of the aircraft.


http://abacuspub.com/airbus/340iberia.jpg
Supposed Airbus A340-300. Anyone esthetically knowing of the A340-300 can say that those engines look like the CFM's on the A340 or that the cockpit section looks anything like the real A340s one!

http://abacuspub.com/airbus/a330canada.jpg
Same applies for their A330, engines and cockpit secion wrongly modelled.


I really coulnd't believe all this when i first saw it, this is a payware package that these guys want $29 for. All of the above is avialable to download for free and those IFDG and Posky models are very accurately modelled. Either these guys have people who model the planes that have no or very little interest in aviation or they just want to get money from a bad product.

http://abacuspub.com/airbus/

[Edited 2005-11-04 17:27:32]
 
jamman
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RE: A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:33 am

I agree!
Well I've always thought some Abacus titles were always below par (I used to do software reviews for FSnordic), they seem to have a quantity not quality production ethic.
Your best off with PSS addon's for payware airbus'
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A3204eva
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RE: A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:58 am

PSS isn't at the bottom now Big grin Make way for that crap!
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GEEZ
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RE: A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:35 am

Oh my...!

They are a pile of shit!

Chris  wave 
If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it... UNLESS it's a crap AFCAD!
 
David L
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RE: A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:40 am

That's a pity. Their VC-10 is superb.
 
dreamer
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RE: A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:52 am

I have several ABACUS add-ons (3) and to be honest I'll never buy another one, they are baaaaaad, but then again, they are cheap... and they install easily (important for some) so I guess they are kind of OK, for some
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Airbus340
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RE: A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:09 am

...The airbus A340's cockpit windows look like the 767 ones! Big grin
 
trekster
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RE: A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:11 am

I have the a380 and VC10 from them. Decent enough programs, good framerate on the comp and verygood price for what your getting.

The 380 has virtual cabin and cockpit (cabin is both floors) and the vc10 hasa good virtual cockpit
Where does the time go???
 
BMIFlyer
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RE: A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:49 am

The A330 looks like a 767 with winglets  duck 


Lee
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Newark777
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RE: A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:04 am

Quoting Trekster (Reply 7):
verygood price for what your getting.

But why pay at all when you can get better for free?

Harry
Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
 
GEEZ
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RE: A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:09 am

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 9):
But why pay at all when you can get better for free?

Hear hear!
If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it... UNLESS it's a crap AFCAD!
 
jeffry747
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RE: A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:42 pm

Quoting GEEZ (Reply 10):
GEEZ

I look at this payware crap and I can't help but say your username out loud
C'mon Big B, FLY!
 
Q330
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RE: A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:14 pm

Ugh! Just look at the panel. It's absolutely awful! ill  If you're after any realism at all, this package looks worthless.

-Q
Long live the A330!
 
dreamer
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RE: A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:28 pm

OK, I'll say again, I too have the A380 (installed easy, runs as easy as default MSFS planes, but lacks realistic panel, and is very uneventful. However it is OK for the low price, and nothing on AVSIM installs that easy and works right away, usually you need to mess with panels and stuff.

I also have their carrier operations, which at least has loads of planes and carriers, and is fun to fly.

My third package from them is Fighter pilots, works ok, but again, the panels are unrealistic and the models are not very good looking, but again they are OK.

So I'd say that if you prefer planes that install easily and fly straight away and want planes that runs with out framerate hits and doesn't hog diskspace, go for ABACUS. Do you want realistic planes that look really good, stay away from it.

So to sum it up, I have been disapointed with ABACUS, but then again, I have compared it to other packages that are more than twice the price, and those expensive packages DO NOT run well on a smaller PC, ABACUS does.

ABACUS gives loads of fun with their add-ons for little money, runs on a slow PC that is unable to run the larger packages, both because of disk space needed and resources. Mayby they are OK after all ???

........................but not for the experts like GEEZ, Lee, Harry and others
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iberiadc852
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RE: A Shameful Payware Release

Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:42 pm

Quoting Mika (Thread starter):

I think the Iberia one is a 346, so perhaps the engines look a little more like they should. What I found not proper of a payware pack, even if the main objective was not to be realistic, is the IB tail logo. It really seems to be done by someone who hasn't even seen a single photo of an IB one.

The Air India A310 seems completely another kind of plane. The nose and tail a lot different to the supposed model, and out of proportion. For me it looks rather like an A320 a little scaled up.
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