777DadandJr
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FS9 Nav Question

Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:20 am

Hi All!
I have a question concerning navigation.
I am currently 2 hours into my EWR-HKG flight. Cruising at FL390 in Peter Max. I have AP on and NAV set, but I seem to continually stray off course.
Have I missed something?

Thanks in advance!

Also, is there anyway to maintain navigation/course outside of ATC?

Russ

[Edited 2005-11-12 02:23:03]
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GEEZ
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RE: FS9 Nav Question

Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:38 am

Hi,

You need the NAV/GPS SWITCH to be set to GPS..

and the NAV BUTTON to be on (Illuminated).

Try that and let me know how you get on.

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RE: FS9 Nav Question

Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:49 am

Try not to fly with the GPS, it gives you bad habits by 'routing dct GPS', and as far as I know you cannot update it with latest airac cycles so it does become out of date. Try FSNav which acts as an FMC for a/c without one. Obviously if you have an a/c with an FMC then use that  Smile
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RE: FS9 Nav Question

Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:49 am

Quoting GEEZ (Reply 1):
You need the NAV/GPS SWITCH to be set to GPS..

and the NAV BUTTON to be on (Illuminated).

Thanks Chris.
I must have screwed something up because when I did the above, it turned me around over Hudson Bay and ATC started yelling at me to expidite my turn back to heading 310!

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RE: FS9 Nav Question

Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:09 am

Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 3):
I must have screwed something up because when I did the above, it turned me around over Hudson Bay and ATC started yelling at me to expidite my turn back to heading 310!

If you missed a waypoint (i.e. didn't fly close enough to it) when you were off course, the FS ATC will try to send you back to it. You could try reloading the flight plan, deleting all the waypoints you don't need anymore (except departure point) and requesting IFR clearance again.

Quoting 777DadandJr (Thread starter):
Also, is there anyway to maintain navigation/course outside of ATC?

When creating a flight plan in the flight planner, select "VFR" instead of "IFR". ATC won't vector you to your destination runway, though. Since you're already underway, just cancel IFR with ATC - your autopilot won't care about ATC! Alternatively, use the technique someone else suggested in another recent thread - next time ATC hands you off to another frequency, acknowledge and change to the new frequency but don't contact the new centre till you're ready to go with ATC again, e.g. a couple of hundred miles from your destination. I've never tried this so you might want to have a look at that other thread about long-haul FS flights to double-check the procedure.
 
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RE: FS9 Nav Question

Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:47 am

The only thing that I could think of is what Chris said. I don't think that you have to worry about the big airports getting out dated. If they do the next flight sim will have the updates...I Hope. I hope I help.


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RE: FS9 Nav Question

Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:55 am

Ok guys,
I think I got it.
We're on a course to HKG!!!

Thanks!

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RE: FS9 Nav Question

Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:17 pm

Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 6):
We're on a course to HKG!!!

How long dose that flight take?
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RE: FS9 Nav Question

Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:22 pm

Quoting Lastordu (Reply 7):
How long dose that flight take?

The total flight is approx 15 1/2 hours. Our eta to HKG is 11 1/2 hours. We should arrive tomorrow morning about 10am EST.

Time to turn off the monitor and the sound and let Peter Max do his stuff!

Thanks everyone, and G'nite!

I'll update our progress in the morning.

Russ & Jr
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RE: FS9 Nav Question

Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:38 pm

Enjoy the nice long flight  Smile I'm about 90 mins out of ORD flying VHHH-KORD. 16.5 hours estimated according to FSNav in a UAL B744. Definately not a flight I'd want to do in real world circumstances! Once I get closer in, I will figure out what my next flight is going to be.
 
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RE: FS9 Nav Question

Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:22 pm

Good Morning All!
Well, maybe not so good. Peter Max is missing over the Pacific! (Not really).

For everyone who gave me tips on sucessful navigation, Thank You!

Unfortunately, around 3:10EST, a computer error forced the shutdown of FS. According to my last check, before bed, Peter Max was flying at FL390, .83mach, on course w/GPS active, somewhere over Alaska.
Checking the computer's error logs I found that there was a "paging" error at 3:10am, and FS terminated.
That was 8hr40min after departure from EWR.

We were very disappointed. But hey, at least it wasn't the real thing!

I guess we'll try again.

I did manage to get these screen shots while everything was still going good:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/777DadandJr/LeavingNewark.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/777DadandJr/SomewhereoverMontreal.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/777DadandJr/SunandMoon.jpg

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RE: FS9 Nav Question

Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:50 am

Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 10):

So where are all the virtual passengers?i guess there trapped in some twilight cyber world never to be seen again when they expected to be in HK.
 boggled 
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RE: FS9 Nav Question

Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:53 am

Quoting Justplanecrazy (Reply 11):
So where are all the virtual passengers?i guess there trapped in some twilight cyber world never to be seen again when they expected to be in HK.
boggled

I guess they really are in virtual reality now!  laughing 

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