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Simulation Rate Taboo

Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:33 am

Why is it frowned upon in the flight simulator community if someone fly's an long haul flight at an increased simulation rate (mainly 2X), instead of real time (1X)?
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jamesbuk
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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:25 am

Mainly because its called a "simulator" which is suppost to reflect reality as best as possible but if you increase the sim rate then you arent flying in reality as real pilots cant speed up a 16H flight so why should we. When i do long hauls i always speed it up a bit as i dont have the time to sit round for 12 hours watching the virtual world go by so personally i dont see anything wrong with it neither do many people but some people are keen on ultra-reality.

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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:26 am

There's a lot of people out there who like to make each flight as realistic as possible, doing a flight in real time helps to achieve a realistic Flight Simulator experience. I personally have never done a long haul flight in real time, the longest flight I have done in real time is about 1.5hrs.

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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:17 am

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 1):
When i do long hauls i always speed it up a bit as i dont have the time to sit round for 12 hours watching the virtual world go by

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Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 1):
personally i dont see anything wrong with it neither do many people but some people are keen on ultra-reality.

I agree.
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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:35 am

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 1):
When i do long hauls i always speed it up a bit as i dont have the time to sit round for 12 hours watching the virtual world go by

You dont have to sit there for 12 hours staring at it!

If on a long haul, once your at cruise level hit the NAV button and the autopilot flies the route programmed on your GPS.

I do a LOT of long hauls, and there is no way I can spend more than an hour in front of the screen watching it! - I get bored within minutes of reaching cruising altitude.
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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:29 pm

Yall better consider yerselfves fortounate, real pilots don't have time compression!
 
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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:03 am

Quoting AC21365 (Reply 5):
Yall better consider yerselfves fortounate, real pilots don't have time compression!

Sure, but the real pilots get serviced !!  Wink
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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:13 am

Quoting GEEZ (Reply 4):
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i know that, thats what i always do its just some people like to keep in contact with atc to make it even more realistic so they do sit there.. although i think theyre mostly the people who work at home and keep it in the back ground. i know how you feel about getting bored within minutes, i normally take off get to 6000 feet and let autopilot take over and i go watch T.v or on msn and just check fuel every 20 mins

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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:11 am

im one of those that frown upon time compression. I like my flights to be realistic, and to me time compression does not offer this. Also those that simply take off and then go to sleep / go out, coming home to land are just as bad.

Im fortunate enough to have a laptop as well as my FS machine, so I can surf the net on the lappy or watch a film.

If you dont have time or the patience to do a 12 hour flight, then why not just do a 3 hour flight instead? Simply taking off, skipping to the destination and landing isnt flying. Why not just do circuits of the airport, or use the map view to move your aircraft to the ILS of the destination, its the same effect.

Those that come on here and say they have just flown a long haul flight are lying , unless they have done it in real time.

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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:45 am

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 8):
Also those that simply take off and then go to sleep / go out, coming home to land are just as bad.



Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 8):
Im fortunate enough to have a laptop as well as my FS machine, so I can surf the net on the lappy or watch a film.

Unless those of us have jobs for 10 hours a day plus families then I don't see us being "bad", just trying to enjoy the little free time we have in our lives. Also most of us do not sit all day at a pc, not one that could run FS worth a damn anyway. And at the end of the day it is still only a game, even if you did sit there all day to make the 12+ hour flight real.

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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:04 am

How is going out to walk the dog after setting autopilot any more realilistic than using time compression. gimme a break.
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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:39 pm

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 8):
I like my flights to be realistic

So when you crash do you throw yourself down the stairs just to complete the effect?  Wink
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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:46 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 11):
So when you crash do you throw yourself down the stairs just to complete the effect? Wink

LOL i nearly fell off my chair when i red that.. and its true aswell theres only a certain amount of realism you'll get out of msfs

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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:30 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 11):
So when you crash do you throw yourself down the stairs just to complete the effect?

 rotfl  rotfl 

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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:45 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 11):
So when you crash do you throw yourself down the stairs just to complete the effect? Wink

I never crash, but next time I do ill consider it  Silly
 
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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:29 am

I've done SEA-AMS, AMS-SEA and SEA-NRT in real time, and it definetly gets boring...I usually pass the time reading or doing homework, as there isn't much to do besides monitor the radio. Most of my flights are between 1.5 and 3 hours long, as I really don't have that much time for simming in the first place.
 
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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:03 pm

Yes you can't say you've got the hours if you speed up the simulation rate. I even did some 20 hour flights in the 777-200LR and just did those overnight, I had to get some sleep but never have I once used time acceleration. It's the least realistic thing you can do. Even on only 2x.

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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:18 pm

It's just a game yall

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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:14 pm

Well some people take it a bit more seriously than that, I do, you could call me a "geek" like many people do so that means 20 hour long haul flights although those are quite rare. For example I log every flight I do and you'll see from my bio page that there is a link to the flight log with over 1000 hours in it since august. None of it had time acceleration.
 
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RE: Simulation Rate Taboo

Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:53 am

I guess everyone has there own opinion on sim rate and my personal opinion is that i cant stand to wait 4+ hours to land be able to take some proper action so i speed up so that i can fit the flight into the spare time i have.

Quoting Jetflyer (Reply 18):
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I dont see why people would call you a geek for that, If you have the time to do that good on ya and well done on 1000 hours non accelarated i think thats quite an achievement for non-time acceleration.  bigthumbsup 

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