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A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:02 am

Hi (experienced) modellers,

since Braz-models announced not to go ahead with producing a modification kit for the A340-500, I will make one myself.

If you have two A330-300 kits + one A330-200 tail fin from braz, you can follow me doing so!
we will use parts from the flap stabilizers of the second A330 kit to produce the engine struts.

I figured out that the CF-6 engines delivered with the kit are practically the same dimensions as the Trent 500.
The Revell CF-6 is not correctly modelled, but the resemblance with the Trent is amazing, only some adjustments make it a real trent.

The wing design will be more tricky, but I think it's possible.

The body gear is simple, just take one main gear from the second A330 kit,
in reality too; they are the same struts.

one frame from the second A330 kit will still need to be placed on the back of the hull.

It's also possible to make an A340-600 out of it,
then you need more frames from the second kit.

Any comments are highly welcome!
Share you're thoughts!
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:03 pm

Hi Karel,

sounds amazing. I don't think I could undertake anything like that myself. I agree that the wing/wingbox part will be the hardest. I'm very sad that Braz doesn't go ahead with those models. I really want to build an LH and an EK A346, but that will be very difficult now.

Anyway, I wish you good luck with that project. Post some pictures.

Edit: The thing with those engines didn't leave me alone. I looked it up, they really look very similar. The Trent is a little smaller than the CF6.

The CF6 is 4,26m long, the Trent 3,93m.
Diameter of the CF6 is 2,89m, for the Trent 2,47m.

Those are really tiny differences, maybe the engine needs to be shortened just a lil' bit.

Sources:
http://www.geae.com/engines/commercial/cf6/cf6-80e1.html

http://www.rolls-royce.com/civil_aer...e/downloads/airlines/trent_500.pdf

Tail issues should be resolved with the A332 tail.

Landing gear is quiet a challenge. The kit has the A343 main landing gear in it. Basically you would have to fit one of the side landing gear main parts (part 72 or 73) into the gear box (14) and make the whole in the closed claps (20) a little bigger, so that it fits.

The A345 wingspan is about 3m more than the A333. Means 1,5m per wing, which is basically 1cm in 1/144.

You can look at
http://www.airbus.com/en/aircraftfamilies/productcompare/
to compare the dimensions. However, that doesn't tell which part of the wing has been stretched.

Really a lot of challenges. Decals will be another challenge, I suppose.

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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:59 am

Hi Thorben!

Speaking of the decals,
we could use the Emirates one with the Gulf Air ones!
BTW, I still need to send them with the tail, I think I have another tail available should you be intersted to make a 345 or 346 with me.
would be cool though!

Maybe you can make a 346 and ask F-DCAL for custom decals, or use the Revell LH ones.
Maybe asking for a Thai decal at F-DCAL?

Quoting Thorben (Reply 1):
The CF6 is 4,26m long, the Trent 3,93m.
Diameter of the CF6 is 2,89m, for the Trent 2,47m.

Those are really tiny differences, maybe the engine needs to be shortened just a lil' bit.

And...
in the Revell kit, they are practically identicall to the the Trents, only the shape of the undarpart and the thrust reverse slide is bigger, maybe only one mm of diffrence on width and lenght.
Also the exhaust does the trick on the lenght, making them shorter into the thrust cone will already MAKE IT a Trent!

Quoting Thorben (Reply 1):
Landing gear is quiet a challenge. The kit has the A343 main landing gear in it. Basically you would have to fit one of the side landing gear main parts (part 72 or 73) into the gear box (14) and make the whole in the closed claps (20) a little bigger, so that it fits.

I still need to investigate that one, but even if we break down the main gear and build it on the mechanism of the 343 gear, it can be done since they are already in different pieces.



The wing will be very hard to do,
the chord is different, as well as the wide and lenght...
and i have a strong feeling the wing bay is larger on A345 A346.

I' am still going for it though!
I have a very nice B767-400ER in advanced stadium, so...
It would only be a big dumper if Revell announced an A346 kit somewhere later this year when i' am in an advanced stadium!!

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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:04 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 1):
The A345 wingspan is about 3m more than the A333. Means 1,5m per wing, which is basically 1cm in 1/144.

Maybe we can adjust this by making the winglet assembly farther from the wing end and reshape it?
That would be the easiest way for a 345-6 look, they also hang lower on the 345-346, I have seen that myself on the A.NET ZRH meet saturday when a SAA A342 and Thai A346 standed next to eachother.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:54 pm

Hi Karel,

concerning the decals, the sheet is still not here, we'll talk about that via e-mail.

EK decals are not really a problem. The A332 tail decals should just be perfect for the A345/6. Fuselage writing "Emirates" can be done with the A332 fuselage decal. Engine decals might be a problem, since the kit has them for two engines and we need them for four. Either take them from two decal sheets or use an Revell EK A388 decal sheet, those might be a little bigger, but not too much. The rest should be no problem, except the writing "Airbus A340-500" which is below the cockpit windows. Oh, I forgot, the underbelly decal. How are we going to do that?

LH is even easier. The only difference to the A343 is the tail emblem, that of the A343 could be used, but I also have the Brazil decals for the A332 of LH, those would be perfect. Remains the "A340-600" writing. Maybe I can get my hands on an A306 decal sheet, combine the "A340" from the A343 sheet with the "-600" of the A306 sheet.

Thai? I still have the A306 sheet from the Bras. A333 and A306 sheet in old livery. But there the color is more a purple, the new livery has more blue in it. And the writing "Thai" on the fuselage is different. Depends on how precise the thing has to be. The paintjob on the tail half could be done without decals, although it would be a lot of work.

What I also thought about was Qatar Airways. I wanted to combine the tail and fuselage markings of the Bras. A332 (the one with Sri Lankan and Air Tahiti on it) with the engine markings of the A380 sheet (the one with SQ A380 on it). I don't have the A332 sheet, but I think Liveries Unlimited released a QR A330 sheet.

I'm still not sure what to do with the wings. I compared a lot of pictures, but I can't really see a difference, except that the A345 engines appear to be closer to the fuselage. We could do several things to find out what to do:

-Email Airbus and ask them what they did.
-Buy some 1:500 models and compare.
-Ask Braz models what they did. (Maybe we could ask them if they still send us some kits, even if they are very expensive. Might be a good solution.)

Anyway, I think I'll try the LH A346. If that works out I can think about EK or QR, or even TG. Right now I'm busy with the university, I'll have to see when I can start.

Let me know what you think.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:32 pm

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 2):
It would only be a big dumper if Revell announced an A346 kit somewhere later this year when i' am in an advanced stadium!!

I don't know, maybe we should ask them, too.

Edit: I just looked at their homepage. You can wish yourself a model that they bring out. How about we wish the A346, so that it can be cut to be an A345, should be easier than bring an A345 model to the A346 length. What about the decals? Emirates? Etihad? South African? Thai?

Karel, one other thing. EK 345, TG 346, CO 764 Swissair MD-11.... Are you building the ZRH airport?

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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:58 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 5):
Karel, one other thing. EK 345, TG 346, CO 764 Swissair MD-11.... Are you building the ZRH airport?

Ha.. Funny!
I was thinking that too lately!But it's purely coincidence
I even already have a UA 763, and around 6 SWISS A32S and 4 330/340's!
Even an SQ 744 is coming along nicely and a Helvetic F100 too!

Quoting Thorben (Reply 5):
Edit: I just looked at their homepage. You can wish yourself a model that they bring out. How about we wish the A346, so that it can be cut to be an A345, should be easier than bring an A345 model to the A346 length. What about the decals? Emirates? Etihad? South African? Thai?

I' am already wishing the A346 since 2004 on there homepage!
Livery is not relevant! I like most of them!

Quoting Thorben (Reply 4):
Anyway, I think I'll try the LH A346. If that works out I can think about EK or QR, or even TG. Right now I'm busy with the university, I'll have to see when I can start.

Great!
I will correspond with you on it and work out a manual!

Quoting Thorben (Reply 4):
the underbelly decal. How are we going to do that?

The A380 kit decal has it!
( I have 3 spare decals of them!)

Quoting Thorben (Reply 4):
except the writing "Airbus A340-500"

I have a custom decal creator kit, it works excellent for such things!
I can make a LH version for U2, same as the registration and a correct german flag!
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:07 pm

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 6):
Ha.. Funny!
I was thinking that too lately!But it's purely coincidence
I even already have a SA)">UA 763, and around 6 SWISS A32S and 4 330/340's!
Even an SQ 744 is coming along nicely and a Helvetic F100 too!

Can you post some pictures, please? Especially of the A330/340s.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 6):
I' am already wishing the A346 since 2004 on there homepage!
Livery is not relevant! I like most of them!

I like them, too. But I wouldn't need a VS or IB A346, or SQ A345. I'd like to have EK, EY, LH, SA, QR, TG, MU or CX. I think I'll write to Revell.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 6):
Great!
I will correspond with you on it and work out a manual!

OK, but I think I can't start before the beginning of April.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 6):
The A380 kit decal has it!
( I have 3 spare decals of them!)

Would the size fit? BTW, does the EK A380 kit have both kind of engines, GE and RR? What have you build of the kits?

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 6):
I have a custom decal creator kit, it works excellent for such things!
I can make a LH version for U2, same as the registration and a correct german flag!

Custom decal creator? Tell me more about it.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:30 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 7):
Custom decal creator? Tell me more about it.

from Testors, you can print it with an inkjet!
a sealer spray is included too.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 7):
Would the size fit? BTW, does the EK A380 kit have both kind of engines, GE and RR? What have you build of the kits?

Not many A345's have it actually on doing a bit of research.
But I think it will fit!
The kit has one type of engines.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 7):
OK, but I think I can't start before the beginning of April.

No prob,
I will keep a log anyway!

Quoting Thorben (Reply 7):
Can you post some pictures, please? Especially of the A330/340s.

I will do that ASAP!

I also figured some things out on making the wing bigger!
it's actually not that hard, altough you need to be a little bit skilled with a dremel, making supports and putty!
The wing will be cut open lenghtwise and the triangular shape design for the A345/6 wing placed in the center, and filled up with putty.
Via this way we will get the span and short just as the real wing!
I already asked the guys here at the tech forum for help about dimensions and it has already proven fruitfull!
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:34 am

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 8):
from Testors, you can print it with an inkjet!
a sealer spray is included too.

So you have a special software? I have an inkjet, with the right decal paper I could maybe print my own decals. That would rule.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 8):
Not many A345's have it actually on doing a bit of research.
But I think it will fit!
The kit has one type of engines.

OK, but I think all A346s will have it on. I might try it nevertheless. I just don't know what to do with the kit afterwards, because all A380s I want to build have the RR engines. Except Korean Air, I'd like to build that one, but I don't have the decals. Maybe if I can print them, that would work....

Concerning the wings, I figured putty would be needed. I'm not very experienced with that, but I think I'll learn it.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:25 am

Finally a reason for me to check out this forum. I want pictures SWISSER! Big grin
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:20 am

Hi guys!
Glad you like the project Starlionblue!

A little update after the (quite challenging) work on the wings!

It's really looking like an opened up body or something right now, with putty( some sort of plamur/filler) all over the place...
but the angle/lenght is "finally" correct!

I cutted open the wings right after assembly with a very fine saw on the dremel unit.

Doing some research in Airbus manuals I came to the conclusion that the larger aft section is placed just the same as the A343 wing.
So I did that without problems on the mid section.
Oh yes, I also cutted the mid section from after the nr3 door till the front cargo door directly on a seam, later on I will place the correct nose and tail section, I do this also to have some commonality when building A346.
so this section will be identicall for A345/A346.
I did'nt assemble the MID section so I could easely work on each wing seperatly.

The front section of the wing is the tricky part!
angle the root section to have a 90° fit on the fuselages wingbox.
You need to place it in the correct angle on the root at the fuselage and that will give you aproximatly 4mm distance on the root and 2mm at the tip.(without the wingtip assembly!)

Now tape it off at the upper part of the wing with 3M scotch tape, make 3 layers.
start filling via the open underside with putty( I use Revell's Plasto, less agressive!), make sure you use quite some plasto.
after that I started strengthening the part with toothpricks; paste them into the plasto and press them tightly towards the upper part of the wing.

That's where I left off after almost 2 hours of work.

Now we will need to wait until it has dried, then fill the bottom part, reinforce it again, drie it(24 hrs), then remove the upper wing tape and start fine sanding and filling.
I will also need to reshape the wingroot a bit because it is out of it's place now,in reality too the wing root area is comletely different on the front, I' am 100% sure the shape is looking like it should be.

I will post a picture tommorow of the operation, I' am still experimenting with the fillers and putty right now, so in fact we are still at an experimental phase. I hope the Plasto will be strong enough, and not to aggresive on the PVC that it will bend...
Let's cross some fingers!
I have a lot of spare wings, but still!

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):
So you have a special software? I have an inkjet, with the right decal paper I could maybe print my own decals. That would rule.

Just the decal papers and the sealer, make sure you order decal papers for ink-jet printers and see if you can find a decent sealer!
I use some sort of "span-lack" of graupner, actually for flying models to protect the overtape from heat and gas, it does'nt contain any solvents, so 100% inkjet decalproof, it makes them completely watertight!

the software delivered with it is really stupid...for "amateur" models!
I don't use it!
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:30 am

As a little side story;
I went to the dentist today, and I figured that what those guys do are in fact not so different from what modellers do!
The sounds are the same, only they use better "Plasto"!
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:38 am

I can however already show you how the 764 is coming along!
it's in it's primer and really looooooooong!
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:10 am

Hi Karel,

to be honest, I don't really understand your descriptions, I think I have to see pictures.

All this talking about the kits made me work on my A343s and A333s the last couple of days. I think it won't be to long until the first ones are completed.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:57 am

Well,
The plasto appears to be too agressive.
I will design another technique to get the wing done.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:11 am

take two of the wing design!
This time no mistakes and even a much better dimension overall.
I used two wings and installed the slat area in front of the original A343 wing.
This will decrease the amount of Plasto drastically and gives an overall increase in strenght.
I have taken manuals from Airbus this time to compare the wings,
and the first calculation work is almost good, but it had still much to less chord.
So with the second (and absolutely definite!) attempt the dimensions are 100% correct.

OK,
this time less talking!
here is a pic! Enjoy it!
It looks much more like a wing with this design, still a lot of work!


[Edited 2006-02-01 03:13:12]

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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:30 pm

Hi Karel,

I think I understand it with the picture. You sawed off the front of the wing and put in some mm of putty in between the two parts, right?

How are you going to make the wing broader?
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:54 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 17):
I think I understand it with the picture. You sawed off the front of the wing and put in some mm of putty in between the two parts, right?

Hi Thorben!

Indeed, you flatten the two parts out with some putty!
I also installed the wingtip with the first attempt wing design.
This is a slight advantage, because normally we would use a scratchbuild item to do that.I will make the exact dimensions of that for you, just a simple piece of plastic can be fit in then and filled with putty.
I must do the same with this spare tip.

Ok, here are some shots!
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:33 am

Well,
when I looked closely at pic nr.4 I noticed that the angle of the tip is not 100% correct, the curve was not ok, so I quickly pulled it off and re-angled the tip in a correct angle.It's ok now.
And you never believe it but it's exactly 31.6 degrees!
What a real manual of Airbus can do!(off course it does!  Wink )

So part 1 and probably the hardest one is done, now only some fine tuning that includes putty and sanding.
The wing itself should fit nicely on the fuselage just with a simple adjusment of the root at the fuselage, we will only need to reshape it a bit.
Now I have a slight problem,
I' am out of -300 hulls, so I need to get to my local store and get out more A330 kits I put aside there! So a slight delay with that...

There is something else I noticed when I looked at the scaled drawings of the Airbus manuals,
namely the tailplane is bigger on -500-600...
comparing the tailplanes from the root out you get a completely different angle and chord that freaked me out thinking I must do the same procedures on them!
But when you place them exactly from the tip out you get the exact same dimension, only you need to place a plug at the root to make it larger...
So we will use the tailfins from the original kits to make a tailplane root out of it!

So stay tuned on that part!
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:37 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 17):
How are you going to make the wing broader?

Do you mean the span?
with the plug on the tip to get it exactly 1.2cm wider that compares to the 1.5m in 1/1.
the chord is already correct.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:56 am

Hi Karel, the win looks indeed pretty good. I think I understand how you did the wing.

However, I didn't understand what you are going to do with the tail wings.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:23 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 21):
However, I didn't understand what you are going to do with the tail wings.

i will take some pictures of that process too.
I might try that tonight, it's not that complicated.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:57 am

Hi Karel,

have you actually ever thought about an CX A346? I have decals for the A343, they should fit except at the tail, but that could be worked out. Would be nicer than having an A343, I think.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:04 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 23):
have you actually ever thought about an CX A346?

Will be nice too I think!
BTW, I ordered extra A330-200 tails yesterday at LHshop, so we have some in spare now for future projects!

It's only sad that the choice of A330/A340 models is running out at the shops right now...
I reserved the very last one today at my local shop...
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:44 pm

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 24):
BTW, I ordered extra A330-200 tails yesterday at LHshop, so we have some in spare now for future projects!

Now they don't have any more.

Besides, any news on the A345?
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:54 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 4):
LH is even easier



Quoting Thorben (Reply 4):
Remains the "A340-600" writing

You forgot the name of the plane. It can get a bit tricky, but you might consider some dry-transfer letters.

I do have a question. How to get either A330-300 or A340-300 when they are out of production. The last time I saw A340 was in Budapest back in 2001!

Also, Revell revealed some of its plans for 2006. They will have a completely new Constellation and re-issue of 747 see-through model to celebrate their anniversary.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:12 pm

This is probably one of the most interesting threads here. Are you members of yahoo mailing list and do you visit www.airlinercafe.com? Both can be very helpful for your project.

SWISSER, be careful with those 330 kits. They are running out quickly and they are not produced any more.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:32 pm

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 27):
This is probably one of the most interesting threads here. Are you members of yahoo mailing list and do you visit www.airlinercafe.com? Both can be very helpful for your project.

No, not yet. I just looked at airlinercafe, it is quiet interesting.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 27):
SWISSER, be careful with those 330 kits. They are running out quickly and they are not produced any more.

Yep, same goes for the A340-300 kits, they are out of production even longer, but they pop up on Ebay from time to time.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:37 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 28):
but they pop up on Ebay from time to time.

Yes, but they are usually overpriced. Also, buy DC-9s, 737-200s, A300s and DC-10s from Airfix if you can, because they are also withdrawn from the new catalogue and it would be harder to find them in shops.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:34 am

Hi Guys,

well I had some big things coming up last week, namely my application at Gulf Air as inflight chef, but I will soon recommence the work!

In the mean time I recieved two Dragon wings 1/400 models of both the -300 and -500 to compare it a bit with that, and indeed the wingbay is larger.
So we need putty there as well...

I recently won an A340 at Ebay as well as an A330!
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:36 am

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 29):
Yes, but they are usually overpriced. Also, buy DC-9s, 737-200s, A300s and DC-10s from Airfix if you can, because they are also withdrawn from the new catalogue and it would be harder to find them in shops.

I depends, the A340 and A330 are OK. I don't have plans concerning the Airfix models you mentioned, except maybe one 732.

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 30):
well I had some big things coming up last week, namely my application at Gulf Air as inflight chef, but I will soon recommence the work!

Oh, when they take you, then you will spend a lot of time away from home, huh? Do they actually fly to BRU?

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 30):
In the mean time I recieved two Dragon wings 1/400 models of both the -300 and -500 to compare it a bit with that, and indeed the wingbay is larger.
So we need putty there as well...

Oho, I see a lot of work coming towards me.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:45 am

Talking about the A330-300 I just finished my Roots Air A330-300 model...I'll show you my pics soon
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:48 pm

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 32):
Talking about the A330-300 I just finished my Roots Air A330-300 model...I'll show you my pics soon

Do that, I'd like to see them.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:13 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 31):
except maybe one 732.

I have one in spare! also with JT9D-15 engines from Braz.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 31):
Oh, when they take you, then you will spend a lot of time away from home, huh? Do they actually fly to BRU?

the homebase is BAH, and no they don't fly to BRU, but that doesn't matter!
BRU is only one hour from CDG,LHR,FRA.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 31):
Oho, I see a lot of work coming towards me.

It's all pre-eaten!
Most hard things will already be adjusted from my kits, so you just need to follow my manual!

Quoting Thorben (Reply 33):
Quoting RootsAir (Reply 32):
Talking about the A330-300 I just finished my Roots Air A330-300 model...I'll show you my pics soon

Do that, I'd like to see them.

Yep me too!

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 26):
Also, Revell revealed some of its plans for 2006. They will have a completely new Constellation and re-issue of 747 see-through model to celebrate their anniversary.

That's interesting!
Let's hope they will produce a decent A340-600 too!
It will defenitly safe a lot of hard work for us!
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:28 am

I wouldn't be surprised to see A340-600. After all, Revell has rights to make all the Airbus kits and having in mind that Lufthansa has 346.......

Anyway, I still can't forgive myself for not buying their Avro RJ-85  banghead 

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 34):

I gave Thorben another address where you can find a lot of help. I know some people there already made similar conversion.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:40 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 25):
Now they don't have any more.

You can always take some over from me if you want!

BTW, I decided to get rid of a SWISS A332 because the decals where crap and I started to "decal" a model in the livery of my future employer.
I still need to put Decalsetting on the Gulf Air titles, in a picture you see it quite clearly. In real (model!) the gold is awesome!
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:45 am

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 36):
my future employer.

Aha, so they'll take you. Congratulations!

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 36):
In real (model!) the gold is awesome!

What are all those models in the background? I see AF, UA, and several others. Can you post pictures of those, too?
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:49 am

That model looks great! At the moment, I'm struggling with Fokker 100 that will probably have Swissair decals.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:21 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 37):
Aha, so they'll take you. Congratulations!

well not officially confirmed, but very most probably likely I was told! Wink

Quoting Thorben (Reply 37):
What are all those models in the background? I see AF, UA, and several others. Can you post pictures of those, too?

The UA is a 777 N229UA without it's engines, I' am using those for a much better modified UA777 in the new sheme.

the AF is a metal A380 in 1/200, nothing fancy.

Above the UA777, that is that special Gulf Air A340-300, but it's not that good and still some decal work on it.

Next to that is that Star Wars Naboo fighter from episode I and II.

the grey thing is the 764 and blocked by my hand is a wonderfull self painted F-16 tiger of the Belgian Air Force.
and on top of the shelve right, that is the front of a red Swiss SBB Re460 locomotive, very pretty!
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:01 am

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 39):
well not officially confirmed, but very most probably likely I was told!

Well now it's official!
I' am getting hired at GF as inflight chef!
Now let's hope I will pass the medical exam.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:57 am

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 40):
I' am getting hired at GF as inflight chef!
Now let's hope I will pass the medical exam.

Congratulations! You will pass that exam without a problem. Wish you all the success in GF
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:02 am

Congratulations Karel!

You'll be more away from home, then? Anyway, being the chef on an airplane must be great. I like to cook and I like airplanes, in case I won't finish my scholastics I know what I'll look for then. (I would have to learn to put more paint on my models than on my hands, though.  Wink )
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:18 am

Thanks guys!

A propos, I will continue tommorow with the EK A345!
I have a dentist appointment at 0900 and after that " a whole day off!"
I' am still in Belgium, don't worry!
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:39 am

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 43):
I will continue tommorow with the EK A345!

EK or Gulfair? Now you confused me.

I spent the whole day sanding Fokker 100. The putty I use now (Humbrol)is quite old and deserves bit more attention. I tried using Italeri and hated it, so I found some old usable Humbrol. Unfortunately, I'll have to return to Italeri. Now, can you tell me more about Revell's putty?
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:05 pm

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 44):
Now, can you tell me more about Revell's putty?

It's quite good, comparable with Tamiya's putty, but without that silver particles in it.
I bought some sort of wearing kit yesterday from Tamiya, looks really cool!
normally it's used for tanks etc., but for Air france's it will do fine as well!
I love a dirty plane model, looks amazingly real then!
(note the tail section!)


Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 44):
EK or Gulfair? Now you confused me.

The A345 will be an EK, the A332 a GF.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:26 pm

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 45):
The A345 will be an EK, the A332 a GF.

Sorry, my mistake. You said 345 and I've read 332. That suff comes with old age.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:02 am

Well guys,

I'am going to reshift some things,

I will go for an A340-600 in SAA colors instead the EK.
I just ordered 2 brasil decal SAA/mauritius A340 decals, and I will make both an A342 and A346 out of it!

EK is now competition  Wink and I like South Africa(n) both very much!
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:58 pm

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 47):

Karel, how are you going to put the SAA A342 tail on the A346 tail?? I thought about this project as well, but it was the tail that made me go for an A343 instead.
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RE: A340-500 1/144 Emirates

Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:15 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 48):
Karel, how are you going to put the SAA A342 tail on the A346 tail?? I thought about this project as well, but it was the tail that made me go for an A343 instead.

I think I' am going to paint the flat colors myself on both A342 and A346 and drop the detail decals on them, will give much better result!
after that massive work, it will mean nothing and it's not that hard, I have already done such a thing for a friend on a helicopter in South Africa!

ok, some tail shots from our beloved site!
The A340-600:

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