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A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:47 am

I am curios to know what is a fun airport to get in and out of. What is the best class of aircraft "Jet","plane","Helicopter". If there are any pictures you can show me I would really appreciate it! Make sure its in the USA.

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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:24 am

Fun one might be SNA, try brining a 757 into it. That is pretty fun! Also, try 21W, Ranger Creek, in a turboprop or smaller (like the King Air 350). That is pretty cool!
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:57 pm

Quoting Thepilot (Reply 1):
21W, Ranger Creek,

I was always wondering if any one ever went in there besides me!! I have gone in there Hundreds of times and every time is a challenge!
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:02 am

Its fun trying to land a DC9 or BAE-146 into Chicago-Meigs. You can still fly into Meigs in FS2002/FS2004.
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:39 pm

Aspen is always a nice challenge. I do DEN-ASP once in a while in Dash-8. It is fun. Lots of turns, low flying over mountains.
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:28 pm

For a 757 a challenging airport t get into in KJAC. Lots of mountains winds and a few other surprises. "Be on the brakes"
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:09 am

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 3):
Its fun trying to land a DC9 or BAE-146 into Chicago-Meigs. You can still fly into Meigs in FS2002/FS2004.

I just gave this one a shot and screenshots are available in the "The Official Screenshot Thread V25" thread.
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:57 am

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 3):
Its fun trying to land a DC9 or BAE-146 into Chicago-Meigs. You can still fly into Meigs in FS2002/FS2004.

Fun is getting a 744 out of meigs and into it lol
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:52 am

Quoting Trekster (Reply 7):
Fun is getting a 744 out of meigs and into it lol

I wonder what the Mayor would think of that!  Smile
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:07 am

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 8):

The same arsey mayor who destroyed one of the best know airports in the world with out telling anyone.

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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:27 am

Quoting Trekster (Reply 9):
The same arsey mayor who destroyed one of the best know airports in the world with out telling anyone.

I was very upset when that happened! I always enjoyed that airport and thought that destroying it was the same as destroying a monument.
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:27 am

Quoting Trekster (Reply 7):
Fun is getting a 744 out of meigs and into it lol

United did take their first 727 into Meigs when it was retired from service and put on display at the Museum of Science and Industry. I loved flying the Bombardier Challengers into Meigs. The buildings were so close on departure it really gave you a perception of acceleration during the climb out. Just had to be careful on approach to watch for the sailing vessel masts that protruded the approach path.
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:01 am

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 4):
Aspen is always a nice challenge. I do DEN-ASP once in a while in Dash-8.

I just did that, and what a scenic flight! Really nice. Of course, I felt the need to make it even more interesting by using a PMDG 737-700 for the journey. I don't like to brag, but I aced the landing on my first try.  Wink
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:39 am

Quoting AC773 (Reply 12):
I just did that, and what a scenic flight! Really nice. Of course, I felt the need to make it even more interesting by using a PMDG 737-700 for the journey. I don't like to brag, but I aced the landing on my first try.

Wow, what approach speed were you going at? You must have nearly stalled the thing before touchdown, even I have trouble at ASE with the BAe-146 which has great short field preformance.
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:12 am

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 13):
Wow, what approach speed were you going at?

This was at Sardy field (KASE), just in case you though it was the other one. I can't remember exactly what the speed was, but I'm pretty sure it was around 142 @ 40 deg. flaps. Autospoilers were armed and autobrakes set to "Oh shit!", natch.  Wink

Just a few minutes ago I took another suggestion and tried my hand at KJAC. I had no idea how long the runway was, so I loaded the King Air for starters. The minute I saw it, I thought I could use something bigger. Going with my instincts, I pulled up my LDS 763. I had to pull up before VR to avoid going off the end of the runway, but I made it up and went for a little tour around the area. Following that, I turned around and came in for a landing at KJAC. I botched it the first time and had to go around, but the second time I got it right.

Coming in over the numbers, I chuckled at my own stupidity for bothering with a flare on such a short runway. Nevertheless, the 767 brakes proved their worth and I pulled into the taxiway with plenty of runway to spare.

Well I hope you enjoyed my bragging, conceited, and shameless self-gloss post. I know I did!  biggrin 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:21 pm

Quoting AC773 (Reply 14):
This was at Sardy field (KASE), just in case you though it was the other one. I can't remember exactly what the speed was, but I'm pretty sure it was around 142 @ 40 deg. flaps. Autospoilers were armed and autobrakes set to "Oh shit!", natch. Wink

Lol, nice. I was thinking of Sardy Field.
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:55 am

Kjac is interesting to go in at with a LDS 767 and to make it more difficult add wind and snow and Low Visibility.

Quoting AC773 (Reply 12):
I don't like to brag, but

Come to me when you have done this Challenge and Maybe throw in a ADF and VOR in some smaller planes for aa another challenge!
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:47 am

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 16):
Kjac is interesting to go in at with a LDS 767 and to make it more difficult add wind and snow and Low Visibility.

Done. And to demonstrate, here are some screenshots!  bigthumbsup 

I touched down a little short of the stripes, but still on the pavement. I tried to make up for it with a showy flare.  Smile
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Kicked in the reversers and stopped with plenty of runway to spare.
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Parked and shut down.
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Thanks for the tip! I had a really good time with that one.  thumbsup 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:00 am

Good job! I have gone there on delta in a 757 and it is a whole bunch of fun! How long have you been doing Flight Simulators?
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:48 am

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 18):
How long have you been doing Flight Simulators?

Well, when my family bought our first computer in 1995, my dad bought Flight Simulator '95 plus a yoke and pedals. I've been playing pretty much ever since, though for the past few years I've just been using a keyboard. Fun stuff.  Smile
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:42 am

I have been doing it since then too! Although I flew Flight unlimited 3 instead of FS98.
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:41 am

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 20):
FS98

I started with FS95, not FS98

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 20):
I have been doing it since then too!

Sweet! Things sure have changed since then. Incidentally, I was playing FS a few months ago when my sister walked by. She's not the least bit interested in it, but even she commented on how good the graphics were.
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:54 am

Quoting AC773 (Reply 21):
She's not the least bit interested in it, but even she commented on how good the graphics were.

My sister, mom, and dad all say to me how good the graphics are. My dad says it is pretty much the same thing as the real flight simulators that he uses when he trains on the jets he flys!
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:32 am

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 22):
My dad says it is pretty much the same thing as the real flight simulators that he uses when he trains on the jets he flys!

Wow, very neat that your dad is a pilot. What does he fly?

By the way, one of my respected users deleted themselves recently, and A.net reminded me to clear them from my profile. I thought I'd like to add you, so I went to your profile to make sure I'd get your username exactly correct. Lo and behold, you had beaten be to the punch! Thanks for the addition, and welcome to my RU list as well.  bigthumbsup 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:59 am

Thanks for adding me I appreciate it! He flys global Expresses and Challengers. Have you done any cool flights lately?
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:47 am

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 24):
Thanks for adding me I appreciate it! He flys global Expresses and Challengers.

Very cool! So I'm assuming he flies for a NetJets-type operation.(You don't have to elaborate any further; I understand it's confidential.)

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 24):
Have you done any cool flights lately?

LOL now that you mention it, I just finished a flight with a Gulf Air 763. I flew Meigs-MDW and then back to Meigs. I really need to get my hands on FRAPS one of these days so I can start putting some videos together.  Smile
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:12 am

Quoting AC773 (Reply 25):
NetJets-type operation

No he flies for one man. Thats a short runway for a 767! Heres another one for you to try! Seattle washington to 21W in Washington. Try a smaller plane! Its by far the smallest runway and with mountians on eighter side of you it can get pretty harry!
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:14 am

I just finished ASE in a UA A319. That was the hardest landing i've done on record without crashing. I've done ASE in the BAE-146 which is much easier. My touchdown was basically "one wheel at a time" landing.
On approach:
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One wheel down:
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:48 am

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 26):
Seattle washington to 21W in Washington. Try a smaller plane!

Ugh, that was exasperating. I took a Cessna from BFI to 21W and managed to keep the centerline on landing and maintain something of a smooth touchdown. I thought "Well good, I'll just do that again and record my landing with a flight video." The second time around, it didn't go so well. I caught a huge updraft about 10 seconds from touchdown and it totally threw me off. Knowing that there was now no hope for a landing, I applied full power and took a few minutes to circle around in the valley. When I came back from the other end, the winds were still pretty bad. I thought I'd just go for it (this being a sim and all). I touched down pretty hard and veered off to the left. Pretty crappy landing indeed! Maybe I'll try again tomorrow.

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 27):
I just finished ASE in a UA A319.

Is that an IFDG A319? If so, the flight dynamics are probably impairing you. I'll give DEN-ASE another try tomorrow to get some screenshots. I'll also give it a go with an IFDG 319 that I have just to see what it's like.

Aditionally, it should be noted that my 737 ASE landing was with "Cold Fronts" in broad daylight.
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:37 pm

Quoting AC773 (Reply 28):
Ugh, that was exasperating

I have been going in there for years and still find every landing a different one. I did a flight in there yesterday in a King Air 350. It was one of my best landings I have ever done in there! Hey it would be awesome to see some videos!
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:41 pm

Here are some shots from my trip LAX to ASE  Smile

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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:22 pm

I always love flying into CA on FS....flying a 767-300 into SAN has always been fun for me...flying approaches over the mountains thrills me. Alot of my flights on FS are going to the west coast from eastern hubs. But doing long haul flights are fun too.

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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:12 pm

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 30):
Here are some shots from my trip LAX to ASE

Very nice graphics! I love the shot of you at the runway!
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:53 am

Quoting AC773 (Reply 28):
Is that an IFDG A319? If so, the flight dynamics are probably impairing you. I'll give DEN-ASE another try tomorrow to get some screenshots. I'll also give it a go with an IFDG 319 that I have just to see what it's like.

No, I used Aerosoft's Eurowings 2004 aircraft set. The conditions were real world.
 
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RE: A Fun Yet Challenging Airport In The USA

Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:33 pm

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 8):
I wonder what the Mayor would think of that!

With that mayor, some DC-9 power would be called for Big grin

Or maybe Concorde...
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