treeny
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CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:05 am

Hi All

Am giving serious thought to investiging in the CH Yoke.

I guess I can see the obvious benefits so although I of course welcome all of your comments, I guess I would be interested in those of you who have negative feeling towards to the yoke.

Note that I fly exclusively (for now) the PMDG 737 700 so take this into consideration if poss when replying to the thread ( if any body does!!). I mean its great if it works like a dream in a cessna but that doesnt help me with what I need!!

I think you get the idea!

Cheers as always

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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:20 am

I had the yoke product a few years ago. The wife bought it for me for my birthday. I think she paid $130?

Anyways, i was very disappointed in the unit, it was not smooth and cheap ass plastic and the clamps were not all the hot.

I would spend the money on the joystick and throttle system that is out. I think it's called X-52 or something like that. There was a thread on it a while ago.
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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:50 am

Buy a Microsoft SideWinder joystick. Those are the best out there IMO.. I'll see if I can get one for christmas or on my birthday
 
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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:13 am

i went from a sidewinder to the ch yoke and petals. and quoting my self...

Quote:
today I just took the next step up in realism and bought an CH Products Yoke and Petals. I must say it is now just like flying for real.

I have quite a bit of right seat time in the good olde 172s and from my experiences of flying and taxing it, to me there is no comparison between using the Joystick and the yoke and petals.

As far as im concerned its "as real as it gets"
as least with out spending lots of money on a full motion setup.

I will never get rid of my sidewinder Pro but now it has taken an back seat to my yoke.
 
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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:15 am

Its alright, but its the only yoke out there. My complaint is the axis is not smooth, and there is no force feedback. I'll take a yoke over a joystick any day; unless I'm flying an Airbus, helicopter, or a fighter jet.

As a matter of fact, I have the full CH products system, with the yoke, rudder pedals, and the twin-engine throttle quadrant.
 
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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:27 am

DO IT!!!!!!!! I have the yoke, pedals, and throttle and I absoulutly love them. You need to assign the things you want on the differnt buttons. FS9/Settings/Assignments/Joystick/CH... which one you want. But seriously... they are so cool!
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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:21 am

I went from using a joystick to using the CH yoke. It was hard to get used to at first. I had to practice lots of landings before I could land smoothly. I've had it for a few months now, and I'm fully used to it and I really like it. The only gripe I have is that the clamp system is less than ideal. My desk is too thin for it so I have to set the yoke on a book for the clamps to work. I can't say how it works for MSFS though... I use mine only for X-Plane. In X-Plane, it lets me fly more smoothly than I could with my cheap joystick. If you decide to buy, I'd highly recommend buying it from provantage. I got mine for less than a hundred dollars with shipping (to the USA)
http://www.provantage.com/ch-200-615~7CHPU00H.htm

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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:01 am

I have the CH yoke, and I like it a lot. I've had it for more than four years now, and it's still in pretty darn good condition. It's much more realistic than a stick (except if you fly an Airbus or other plane with a stick).

The clamps are a minor issue, but I fold up pieces up paper to fit in between the desk and the clamps - works pretty well.

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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:50 pm

I have the yoke and the pedals, however, I have not tried them together yet until I buy a new computer solely for FS and until FSX comes out. I've given the yoke one or two tries on the old computer without the pedals and it was pretty hard to get used to. Don't buy it until you get the money to buy the pedals as well. I still haven't tried it out enough to give too much info, so I'll just leave it at that.

I also have the Microsoft Sidewinder ForceFeedback 2 and it is great. I think I will use that for combat flight sim and the yoke and pedals for commercial flight sim.
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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:49 am

It ought to work fairly well with the PMDG 737. Anything like a Cessna or Piper gets too hard to fly. The Axies are very jerky and as said before, the clamps aren't very effective. Also, the rudder pedals, if you get them, are extremely sensative and get kind of aggrivating on the ground.

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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:32 am

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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:20 am

Quoting AndersNilsson (Reply 10):
My dream yoke costs 1695 Euro. http://www.simw.com/index.cfm?fuseac...d=926

Why'd you have to post that? Now I want one  smile 

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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:57 am

Quoting N231YE (Reply 11):
Why'd you have to post that? Now I want one

I know what a horrible thing to do!!!!!!!!!

Still it looks nice doesnt it!
 
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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:03 am

I had a CH yoke and rudder setup for a short while. Then one day on a visit to my local FBO I had my first experience with Precision Flight Controls equipment. Needless to say, I just HAD to upgrade.

Now I know what a lot of you are thinking. PFC gear is outrageously expensive. Well, it CAN be, but it doesn't HAVE to be. You can occaisionally find them on E-Bay, and if you want a good deal just call PFC and see if they have any used and overhauled equipment.

That's what I did. I bought an overhauled USB Cirrus yoke for around $250.00 directly from PFC. Not bad considering it is certified as an FAA training device (when used under proper conditions of course). The PFC equipment is all metal - with a nice heavy feel to it. It is exceptionally well built, and feels just like the real thing.

I saved my pennies and a throttle quadrant and rudders came shortly thereafter. Now I have my dream sim, and the gear is by FAR the best I've ever seen.

I even went to the extent of removing the throttles from a scrapped 727 and installing them on my PFC quadrant. It is now a one of a kind throttle, and feels GREAT when you shove those power levers forward on takeoff. I'll post pics when I get home.

CH yokes are good - but if you can save your money - go for PFC gear. There's no looking back.

www.flypfc.com

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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:20 pm

PFC are nice, but at the price are way outside the budget of most people.
Unless you're a wizz there are also problems getting them to work properly for many people (though maybe that's improved over time).

CH are not as good, but a lot cheaper and excellent value for money.

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 13):
bad considering it is certified as an FAA training device (when used under proper conditions of course).

It isn't, never on its own. Any FAA certification will be in combination with a complete setup (software, panels, displays, etc.) only.
That's the same marketing nonsense the makers of X-Plane put on their site when they claimed that X-Plane was a certified FAA training device. It isn't, it's used as part of the software component of a specific certified training device.
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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:41 am

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 14):
That's the same marketing nonsense the makers of X-Plane put on their site when they claimed that X-Plane was a certified FAA training device. It isn't, it's used as part of the software component of a specific certified training device.

I think ASA On-Top 8 in conjunction with the PFC is the only FAA approved simulator. Only 10 Hours of it are loggable though.
 
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RE: CH Products Yoke - Your Reviews?

Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:18 pm

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 14):
It isn't, never on its own. Any FAA certification will be in combination with a complete setup (software, panels, displays, etc.) only.

That is why I mentioned "when used under proper conditions, of course".

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 14):
PFC are nice, but at the price are way outside the budget of most people.

They are expensive, but as I mentioned they do offer refurb / overhauled equipment at a nice discount. My USB yoke was a refurb, it arrived in brand-new condition, with a brand-new warranty, and I've had no problems with it.

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 14):
Unless you're a wizz there are also problems getting them to work properly for many people (though maybe that's improved over time).

My yoke and rudders are both USB - setup and installation is plug-and-play, exactly as the CH yoke and rudders. Setup your assignments, calibrate them in-game, and you're rockin.

As for the Throttle Quadrant, well that was a bit more work - but it definately wasn't difficult. One thing I did have to purchase was a USB-Serial adapter, and it was plug-and-play. Then you just install FSUIPC, install the PFC driver and that's it. Once in the sim, there is a new button on the FILE menu called "PFC". Open that, and the whole quadrant can be customized and setup just the way you want it. It's very easy!

By the way - MANY thanks to Pete Dowson - he released FSUIPC version 4.02 today, and now my throttles work in FSX! Here's what the sim looks like (in the CR7 virtual cockpit):

Big version: Width: 1500 Height: 2250 File size: 211kb


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