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Going Back To Fs2004....

Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:59 am

i doubt fsx will ever work good on my computer, so i'm going back to fs2004.
is anyone else dooing this?
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:12 am

Well, I kept FS9 on my computer,and put FSX on it. I flew once on FSX and hated the frame rates. So i am back on FS9 now.
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:28 am

Why dont you guys change the settings on FSX to make it run smoother on you computers, i think it is a big improvement on fs9, especially the missions included
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:57 am

If I can get it to run on a partitioned Mac, im sure you can tweak it enough to let it run good on your PC it just requires a lot of patience.
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:49 am

What's the specs of the pc you're running? I'm considering buying FSX, but I would like to be sure that it will run smoothly enough.

Thanks,
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:22 pm

I haven't purchased FS10, i'll stay with FS9 until:

a) The bugs in FS10 are ironed out
b) Vista is released and I can build a PC powerful enough to run the new game  Smile



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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:14 am

I'm staying with 2004 because our system won't handle it (I don't think) right now and to be honest, I'm thoroughly enjoying 2004 the way I have it set up on my system. I don't have the time, or patience right now to deal with having to install, tweak and play around with FS9 to get it set up particularly
with the aircraft I want to fly..primarily Airbus stuff. So, I'll stick with FS9 until such time as I get a new system (pending approval from the CFO (my wife)) which will be a while.

This is the first time since the old FS4 that I haven't rushed out to buy the latest version upon its release. But..I'm not unhappy with FS9.


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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:54 am

I'm staying with FS9 for as long as people are still putting out addons. I've managed to get it running with all sliders to the right, with plenty of working AI traffic and gorgeous scenries. Why the heck should I throw it all away, just because MS has rushed the release of FSX?

In fact, tomorrow I'm heading out to get at least one more FS9 addond, though I'm still debating with myself if I should get the LDS767 or the PMDG B744.
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:33 am

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 7):
I'm still debating with myself if I should get the LDS767 or the PMDG B744

I have both of these, and if I had to suggest one it would definitely be the LDS767. It is extremely fun to fly this beast  Smile
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:24 pm

I would suggest that you get both if you can. I probably divide my time equally between them on FS2004 and for different reason, enjoy them both.

Am I right in thinking that FSX is a boon for the GA aircraft but that the heavy metal we waited so long for with PMDG and Level D will be a long way down the track with the new Flightsim? Would you really get FSX just to fly a Cessna 172 when you can can stick with FS2004 and have the scenery, clouds and LDS and PMDG ( that you paid a lot of money for) to play with at decent framerates?

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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:13 pm

I'm sticking with FS9, because i have so much scenery and AI installed, that it would take way too long to re-install it. And i have trouble with frame rates in places with it all on FS9, so i'm not even going to bother with FSX, at least not until i get a better computer.
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:44 pm

I'm still going with my original thoughts that FSX was "rushed".

How typical of Micro$haft......



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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:52 pm

is the LSD compatible with FSX?

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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:02 am

I don't think my older computer will handle FSX, so I left FS9 on it. Actually, If I could just take the AI airport vehicles, auto traffic, and animals, along with the "moving head" of the virtual cockpit mode of FSX, I'd put those into FS9 and be happy.

Is it just me, or does no computer no matter how fast and advanced it is able to run FSX (with the highest settings for graphics)?
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:16 pm

Yah, I didn't even buy FS X. Im gonna stick with FS9 probably for a long while. I am relatively happy with the features and FPS I get in FS9, besides, I am now starting to buy payware in FS9, so lots of room for me to grow my FS9!

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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:05 pm

Quoting Draigonair (Reply 12):
is the LSD compatible with FSX?

Assuming you mean LDS....no, it's not.

I'm also sticking with FS9. I've got a good setup, lots of AI/scenery installed and not much patience for tweaking with new sim that won't perform to my standards anyways. Maybe I'll get FSX when I have the money to invest in a new platform.
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:20 pm

I just moved all my AI ac files to FSX and my traffic.bgl file and was able to get all my traffic back the exact way it was in FS2004. The only thing we have to wait for is a new AFCAD program to assign the parking spots. But I noticed something about the Afcads in FSX, they added a lot more parking spaces  Smile so pretty much all my planes can park.

FSX pretty much has all my normal stuff, the AI from FS2004 with all the planes and airlines.

just missing the parking spot editing, also stuff like Fly tampa/ simflyers/ uk2000, etc scenery I Got on my Fs2004 does not work well. ID have to wait for patches.
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:46 pm

My FSX has started to run smoothly after I reformatted my harddrive and re-installed windows. Now I get 20-30 fps anywhere (its locked at 30) and my settings are almost at maximum.

I do miss especially one add-on very much. The Level-D 767-300ER is the best add-on that I've ever bought for FS. I loooove that aircraft! Big grin
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:14 am

I too am running dual FS versions on my machine. FS9 when I have the need to fly payware (or when I'm craving decent frame rates), or FSX when I'm just plain bored.

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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:17 am

I'm just annoyed that as opposed to returning to the drawing board, MS just keeps adding more and more stuff to FS - until it's gotten to the point (now) when most of us can't even run the latest flight simulator release on our machines. Why are other programs able to reproduce far superior graphics without the massive attack on frame rates?

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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:38 pm

After watching my friend and his computer. I'm having second thoughts about buying FSX nat this point in time. His rates are OK (about 10 FPS) with settings on low (ie no buildings etc etc). So I will personally be stiucking with FS 2004 for a while yet
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:09 pm

Sorry to bring back a thread from the dead, but I reverted to FS9 (2004) about 2 weeks ago, and it is one of the best things I have ever done. I went from like 10 FPS (even at zero terrain, zero autogen, zero traffic, etc.) in FSX to 30FPS with everything set to max in FS9.
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:23 pm

Thing you have to bear in mind is that FSX is extreamly CPU bound. I know a guy who went from the 7600GT 256MB > 8600GT 512MB and noticed 7~12 Fps increase. He after went from a 2.2Ghz Dual > 3Ghz and noticed 15-20fps boost!

In essence, you need a fairly good card but the main aspect is the CPU. So don't go buying 8800s!
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:31 pm

Hey guys,

my PC could handle the FSX, I installed it and played it a few times and I must say: I was REALLY disappointed!!!

Yes, the scenery got upgraded a lot and it looked nice! Frame rates were ok with scenery at its maxiumum.
BUT this should be mostly a FLIGHT simulator and not a SCENERY simulator or am I mistaken here?
The aircrafts from outside look nice with lots of details  thumbsup ...

And here comes the huge BUT:

What about the aircraft cockpit?! NOTHING got updated over FS2004! Same old boring autopilot with not even half the modes you could use! Still no FMS (not even a basic one with reduced functions)... And with the 2D cockpit I cannot see the runway when inside the cockpit, so I have to change to the 3D cockpit but there I cannot hit all the buttons I like to! So I have to swap back and forth all the time! Isnt that frigging annoying?! For me it is!

Oh and ATC: what the heck?! Are they for real? still the same as in FS2004!

So, the FSX is still on my PC, but I dont use it at all! FS2004 with the amazing PMDG 744 add on  bigthumbsup 

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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:04 pm



Quoting N231YE (Reply 21):
I went from like 10 FPS (even at zero terrain, zero autogen, zero traffic, etc.) in FSX to 30FPS with everything set to max in FS9.

I had to upgrade my hardware when I moved from FS2002 to FS2004. I had to upgrade my old hardware again to run FSX. Now I'm running the PMDG 744X at higher settings than I did on FS2004 and getting ~50 FPS. The new hardware isn't even top of the line.

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 23):
What about the aircraft cockpit?! NOTHING got updated over FS2004! Same old boring autopilot with not even half the modes you could use!

I don't think the default aircraft are ever going to be as good as decent add-ons. Ever since PSS and then PMDG and LDS came along, I accepted that FS is a framework to be customised with high quality add-ons. The only default aircraft I've used since then is the C-172 for quick circuits to test new scenery.  Smile
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:46 am

Oddly enough, FSX is running better on my PC than FS9. I was using FS9 yesterday, and it was choppy and boring. I am definitely sticking with FSX. Heck, I may just uninstall FS9. I don't really use it anymore...
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:04 pm



Quoting KhelmDTW (Reply 25):

For some reason - Since I bought a new graphics card. FS9 has been choppy - FSX obviously has improved (Approx 5FPS) So on this I only use FSX now. Although - I do miss SimmersSky....
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:24 am

Like most here i bought FSX and then reverted back to FS9 when i seen how much of a strain it was on the PC to play the damn thing!

Now i have all my add-ons working perfectly on FS9 and i even bought JustFlights 757 Professional last week, havent stopped flying it since, fantastic and i must admit im an Airbus fan!!
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:17 am

I again have FSX and still use FS9, though for me it is mostly that I have such a huge collection of addons. I have somwhere around 250-300 addon aircraft and they are what make it fun for me. I have don all the missions in fsx but they are mostly not fun to do over and over


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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:54 pm



Quoting David L (Reply 24):
I don't think the default aircraft are ever going to be as good as decent add-ons.

I dont except them to be as perfect at PSS or PMDG, just a more realistic autopilot with the available modes like LVL CHG, TRCK HOLD, FPA... An FMS would be perfect of course, but I guess thats still a thing for the paywar add ons...

And improve the ATC....  banghead 

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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:02 am



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 29):
And improve the ATC....  

I wish you could get yelled at in FS, like the real world  wink  Love it when ATC yells at IFR students for doing S-turns on the localizer.
 
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RE: Going Back To Fs2004....

Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:17 am



Quoting N231YE (Reply 30):
I wish you could get yelled at in FS, like the real world wink Love it when ATC yells at IFR students for doing S-turns on the localizer.

 rotfl  yeah thats nice eh? Big grin

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