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Kai Tak Model Airport

Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:46 pm

For those of you who have created a model airport in 1:500 scale before. Ay tips? I hope to have a model of Kai Tak airport next summer built in my new model room. The Runway will be 8.6 feet in length and the arpon area will be 6.5 feet wide at its widest length. I also plan utilizing a VAST array of legos thati have to help create the buildings and terminal surrounding the airport.
 
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:03 am

strange individual, very strange indeed
 
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:09 am

Quoting F4phantom (Reply 1):
strange individual, very strange indeed

 rotfl 

That was classic. I have only built 1:200 scale models of airplanes, so I'm really no help. Sorry.  Sad

Lucas
 
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:00 pm

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 2):
That was classic. I have only built 1:200 scale models of airplanes, so I'm really no help. Sorry. Sad

Which ones do you have?
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:34 am

Quoting F4phantom (Reply 1):
strange individual, very strange indeed

Says the airliners.net user... Pot, Kettle, Black?  sarcastic 
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:03 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 3):
Which ones do you have?

A few:
737-200 ANA
727-200 ANA
727-200 Ansett
744 JAL
Fokker F28 House (1:100)
777-300 ANA
757-200 American (1:150) (RR engines)
737-400 Virgin Blue
And a bunch more. They are mostly Hasegawa models that I put together myself. I also have a gazillion military models, but they do not interest me as much. My girlfriend is putting them together.

My favorites are the Ansett and American models.


Thanks for asking, BTW!

Cheers, Lucas  Smile
 
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:11 am

Quoting F4phantom (Reply 1):
strange individual, very strange indeed

Be easy on the poor lad...
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:52 pm

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 5):

Interesting, I do that, too, but only in 1/144. I like to have them all in the same scale. I used to do military as well, but I stopped that long time ago and don't have those anymore.

My current list in 1/144 is:

A320-100 Air France
A321-100 Lufthansa
B737-800 KLM
A330-300 LTU
A340-300 Kuwait Airways
A340-300 Air Canada (old livery)
A380-800 Lufthansa

and I'm working on many more.
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:36 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 7):
but only in 1/144.

As you can see, my favorites are the bigger ones. I wish I had them all in 1:144, but my local shop has a much smaller selection in that scale, so I went with the ones with the largest commonality. I had to but the others just because they are so nice. I'm going to get an America West A320 soon (die cast with rolling rubber wheels and spinning fan blades) in 1:200 which will be a nice addition, and I'll also get a plastic 777-300ER, but I can't decide if I want the Singapore Airlines one or the JAL new livery one. They are both so beautiful! Tell me, how long is the A380 in 1:144th? It must have been amazing to put together! I really need to start building more, I love seeing my completed collections. Also, I need to get more Airbuses. I completed my Boeing collection, (Only need a 767-400) so I want to start on A soon. I might make all of my new A models 1:144th, and that way I have a head start on larger ones...is there a big price difference between the two scales?

Thanks! Also, I bet that LTU is beautiful. I have always loved those colors for some reason.

Lucas  Smile

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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:38 pm

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 8):
As you can see, my favorites are the bigger ones. I wish I had them all in 1:144, but my local shop has a much smaller selection in that scale, so I went with the ones with the largest commonality.

Over here, Revell is the main manufacturer. They make them in 1/144, so I chose to stay with that size.

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 8):
'm going to get an America West A320 soon (die cast with rolling rubber wheels and spinning fan blades) in 1:200 which will be a nice addition,

Nice thing, I have never done anything with die cast part. How does that work?

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 8):
I'll also get a plastic 777-300ER, but I can't decide if I want the Singapore Airlines one or the JAL new livery one.

I'd take SQ. Besides, I plan to build an A380 of SQ in 1/144. I already have the decals for it.

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 8):
Tell me, how long is the A380 in 1:144th? It must have been amazing to put together!

It is around 50 cm long (20 inches) and 55 cm wide (22 inches). It was challenging to put it together, also the first one that I used the airbrush on. The wheels took forever, same with the engines. I also plan to build in in SQ and QF livery, maybe also EK, and if I find the decals for that, in KE livery.

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 8):
I might make all of my new A models 1:144th, and that way I have a head start on larger ones...is there a big price difference between the two scales?

I actually found the 1/144 to be cheaper than the 1/200. The latter I've only seen from Hasegawa, and Japanese kits are very expensive over here.

If you want to build 1/144, the best and cheapest are from Revell Germany. However, they might be more expensive in the US, due to transport and exchange rate. Their models include:

A319, A320, A321
A310
A330-300 (with GE engines, however they are not made anymore. The LTU had also P&W engines, but has been stopped even earlier.)
A340-300 (Has been stopped some time ago, might be re-launched in Austrian special livery.)
A380, livery of the first flight and EK livery

Antonov 124

Boeing:

737-800
767-300
747-400

Also Fokker 100 and Concorde

Another manufacturer is minicraft. They are more expensive (at least over here) and not so good, but still OK.

They have:

737-3/400
757-200
777-200
MD-80

For 777s, there is also Doyusha from Japan, hellish expensive but good quality.

There are also other manufacturers and many different decal producers. However, a lot of things do not exist, like 777NG, or A340NG. Sometimes you need to do a lot of work and apply extra parts, for example when you want to make an A332 out of the A333 kit.

I think I know the market good, so maybe you tell me what you want and I tell whether it exists and where it is available.


Quoting Halcyon (Reply 8):
Thanks! Also, I bet that LTU is beautiful. I have always loved those colors for some reason.

It's not that good, I made it before I had the airbrush. I was hoping for LTU to get some A343s, then I would make that one with the airbrush, using an A343 kit and the A333 decals. But it looks like they are moving away from their plan to get those.


Quoting Halcyon (Reply 8):
PS-Happy New Year.

Thanks, same to you.
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:29 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):
Over here, Revell is the main manufacturer. They make them in 1/144, so I chose to stay with that size.

I looked them up, and the prices are actually cheaper. I'll have to buy some this summer when I'm off from school. Thanks.  Smile

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):

Nice thing, I have never done anything with die cast part. How does that work?

I think that it is actually a fully assembled model. My mom is buying it for me as a late present, so we'll have to see.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):

I'd take SQ. Besides, I plan to build an A380 of SQ in 1/144. I already have the decals for it.

I decided on that and a JAL 744 in new colors. I do not have the 744 already as I stated above...that was a mistype...I have a B743 in the Old Colors. In my opinion, JAL's old colors were much better.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):
I actually found the 1/144 to be cheaper than the 1/200. The latter I've only seen from Hasegawa, and Japanese kits are very expensive over here.

If you want to build 1/144, the best and cheapest are from Revell Germany. However, they might be more expensive in the US, due to transport and exchange rate. Their models include:

Thanks for that info. They are cheaper, as I said above, so I might look into them. It'll be nicer to have bigger models, too. Plus, I don't have a Concorde and have not seen many kits for 1:200 ones.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):

I think I know the market good, so maybe you tell me what you want and I tell whether it exists and where it is available.

Well, now that you mention it...I've been looking to make a nice L1011 if there are any, and failing that I'm also looking for a 732 or any other good 737, preferably an older series...

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):

It's not that good, I made it before I had the airbrush. I was hoping for LTU to get some A343s, then I would make that one with the airbrush, using an A343 kit and the A333 decals. B

My very first ones were made like that...and they looked so terrible...that's why I have so many ANAs and JALs...easier to paint back then!

Take care,
Lucas
 
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:28 am

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 10):

I think that it is actually a fully assembled model. My mom is buying it for me as a late present, so we'll have to see.

OK, but there are also kits of die cast parts for some models around. I've never bought one, though.

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 10):
I decided on that and a JAL 744 in new colors. I do not have the 744 already as I stated above...that was a mistype...I have a B743 in the Old Colors. In my opinion, JAL's old colors were much better.

Yes, JAL's new livery is a little boring, too much white.

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 10):
Well, now that you mention it...I've been looking to make a nice L1011 if there are any, and failing that I'm also looking for a 732 or any other good 737, preferably an older series...

There is a manufacturer called "Airfix", they have a TriStar (TWA and old Cathay liveries) and a 732 with Air France decals. 733 and 734 you could get from Minicraft.

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 10):
My very first ones were made like that...and they looked so terrible...that's why I have so many ANAs and JALs...easier to paint back then!

Speaking of your planes, can you post some pictures?
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:42 am

Quoting Apollo13 (Thread starter):
Ay tips?

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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:38 pm

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 12):
Quoting Apollo13 (Thread starter):
Ay tips?

And a truckload of patience and concentration!
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:11 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 11):


OK, but there are also kits of die cast parts for some models around. I've never bought one, though.

Hmm, that might be something to look into...I wonder about weight issues though...once, on a 727, I put it all together and it was tail heavy...kept flipping onto the rear wheels...had to go take it apart and put a weight in the back.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 11):
There is a manufacturer called "Airfix",

Thanks for that, I checked out their website and they do indeed have them. The site is being updated right now, but it should be back online soon.  Smile

Quoting Thorben (Reply 11):
Speaking of your planes, can you post some pictures?

I'll see if I have any, but they are currently stored until this summer...I'm in Arizona for college (back in MT now, but at a different house, and am leaving at the beginning of next week  Sad ) so I can't pack them and take them with me.

I will certainly show you my newest models when they arrive and are put together! That should be by the 12th too!  praise 

Thanks for all the help too!

Lucas  Smile
 
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:42 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 11):

I just realized that I do have one still out, and at the house here...it's an interim colored DL MD-11...will see if I can find some pics and such.

Lucas
 
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:28 am



Well, there is one. It's the only one I have. Notice the model on the bottom, sans landing gear. (I put it on it's stand, but I don't like it's wheels for some reason...)
 
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:53 am

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 14):
Hmm, that might be something to look into...I wonder about weight issues though...once, on a 727, I put it all together and it was tail heavy...kept flipping onto the rear wheels...had to go take it apart and put a weight in the back.

Weight is an issue there, yes. I sprayed my Kuwait A340 with clear paint after I was done, and it is now a lot heavier than my AC A340. (I'll measure that someday.)

Models often have the problem with falling on their tail. Can be balanced by putting something in the front before assembling the halves. My A380 still barely touches the ground with the front wheels, despite me putting in the 50 grams that the manual says. (However, the one in the photo in the manual seems to have the same problem.) I used to put chewing gum in the halves, but now I use plasticine.

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 16):
Well, there is one. It's the only one I have. Notice the model on the bottom, sans landing gear. (I put it on it's stand, but I don't like it's wheels for some reason...)

Looks nice, the MD-11 is a good-looking plane. Someday I plan to build one of either AA or LT. However, they are hard to do in 1/144, because there is no real kit. Except Welsh models, but theirs are hard to assemble and very expensive. Or a conversion of a DC-10.
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:51 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 7):
A320-100 Air France
A321-100 Lufthansa
B737-800 KLM
A330-300 LTU
A340-300 Kuwait Airways
A340-300 Air Canada (old livery)
A380-800 Lufthansa

Nice selection  Wink

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):

You're right. Revell is easy to be found here and it's cheap. Minicraft is fine, but......

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 10):
Well, now that you mention it...I've been looking to make a nice L1011 if there are any, and failing that I'm also looking for a 732 or any other good 737, preferably an older series...

Thorben told you. Airfix makes them both, but L1011 is not accurate. If you buy 732, use BA decals, because AF colours are too light.
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:33 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 17):
Models often have the problem with falling on their tail. Can be balanced by putting something in the front before assembling the halves. My A380 still barely touches the ground with the front wheels, despite me putting in the 50 grams that the manual says. (However, the one in the photo in the manual seems to have the same problem.) I used to put chewing gum in the halves, but now I use plasticine.

Thanks for the tip. I obviously screwed up what I meant to say, but you got it right.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 17):
Except Welsh models, but theirs are hard to assemble and very expensive.

That would be quite a project. I don't think that I'd be up to it myself.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 18):

Thorben told you. Airfix makes them both, but L1011 is not accurate. If you buy 732, use BA decals, because AF colours are too light.

Thanks for that tip, BTW. It's just hard to find a nice L1011 I suppose. I think that I'd use the BA decals anyway (comair?), assuming that they were not a whiter scheme. The old BA L1011s were possibly my favorites in the dark scheme...too bad that is long gone.

Man I'm tired, s off to bed now.

Thanks,
Lucas
 
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:25 am

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 19):

There is an accurate L1011, but it is hard to find and usually expensive. It was produced by Otaki, Japanese manufacturer that went out of business. There is an option for you to buy Welsh Models kit, but they are vac-form kits and they are not cheap, too.

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 19):
I think that I'd use the BA decals anyway (comair?), assuming that they were not a whiter scheme.

Airfix offers Landor livery.
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:06 am

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 20):
t was produced by Otaki, Japanese manufacturer that went out of business. There is an option for you to buy Welsh Models kit, but they are vac-form kits and they are not cheap, too.

I'll have to avoid that then...I might just order a pre-made one if I can find it on these fantastic interwebs.


Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 20):

Airfix offers Landor livery.

Thanks...maybe I can order it this summer so that my girlfriend and I have something to do.  Silly
 
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:06 am

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 18):
Nice selection Wink

Thanks.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 18):
You're right. Revell is easy to be found here and it's cheap. Minicraft is fine, but......

not as good as Revell, but therefore more expensive?

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 19):
That would be quite a project. I don't think that I'd be up to it myself.

I think that is really so much, cutting an A333 to an A332 is already enough work.

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 19):
Thanks for that tip, BTW. It's just hard to find a nice L1011 I suppose. I think that I'd use the BA decals anyway (comair?), assuming that they were not a whiter scheme. The old BA L1011s were possibly my favorites in the dark scheme...too bad that is long gone.

The TriStar comes with decals of TWA and Cathay, not BA. The 732 is the thing that comes with BA decals. I dont know if there are actually TriStar BA decals somewhere. Ive never seen any.
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:12 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 22):
The TriStar comes with decals of TWA and Cathay, not BA.

I never new that Cathay had them, or are they fictional? That would be great to see anyway, however.
 
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:13 pm

Cathay was a large TriStar operator. The 330s in essence replaced them.
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:57 pm

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 23):
I never new that Cathay had them, or are they fictional?


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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:00 pm

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 25):

Yes that is what's in the kit. Together with decals for this:


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Funny thing is that I read an article about the T7 before its first flight in a paper called "Flug Revue" where they had a picture of a T7 in that old Cathay livery, which never existed, afaik, because they changed their livery to the one they have today before they got their first T7.

BTW, an A343 in the current Cathay livery is also among my future projects. I already have the kit and the decals for that.
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:32 pm

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 24):



Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 25):



Quoting Thorben (Reply 26):

Thanks guys. I 'spose I'm too young to remember them.  Wink I think that I'd have to call it the flying mango, but that green's not all that bad.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 26):
Cathay livery, which never existed, afaik, because they changed their livery to the one they have today before they got their first T7.

I remember reading about that and seeing pics of those first 777s in the book Giant Jetliners. If I recall, the picture showed an antenna attached to the rear of the aircraft...it wasn't that long and had a cone on the end. I never knew what it was.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 26):
BTW, an A343 in the current Cathay livery is also among my future projects.

That will be very nice to see. Be sure to post pics when it's done!
 
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RE: Kai Tak Model Airport

Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:13 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 22):
not as good as Revell, but therefore more expensive?

Exactly! bigthumbsup  I bought a Minicraft 707-420 with decals for classic LH livery. When I opened box it looked OK, but when I took a closer look problems became evident. First, windshield is not accurate and needs some sanding and filling. Then I found another problem. Wrong nose gear door!  banghead  Minicraft has some great kits like MD-80 and recent DC-8, but some needs a lot of extra work.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 26):
an A343 in the current Cathay livery is also among my future projects. I already have the kit and the decals for that.

Another nice choice. bigthumbsup 
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